PaulWilliamson Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 I know, easiest way is to make sure I bought a transparent image but I forgot to check that 🙂 I followed a couple videos and document but they didn't work. I do not think I can use the selection brush or color selection tool with this image. I would like the background to be transparent so I can place it over a colored background. Let me know if you have any ideas! If I was successful with the image of the four trees I supposed I could just crop out each tree but maybe it would be easier to use one tree at a time. Thank you, paulw <Mod Edit>Copyright images Removed</Mod Edit> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotMyFault Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 (edited) There is one complexity which makes any automatic or easy selection impossible: The image contains pure white leaves on pure white background. No way to distinguish them based on colors. One method (using Photo) is to erase white paper, https://affinity.help/photo/English.lproj/pages/Filters/filter_eraseWhitePaper.html correct alpha channel by procedural texture filter with A=sign(A-a), input a set slightly below 0 redraw the white leaves with white brush on pixel layer below Maybe you find a kind of template for the white leaves, worst case all are individually shaped. Edited September 9, 2021 by NotMyFault Removed image to avoid copyright issues Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulWilliamson Posted September 8, 2021 Author Share Posted September 8, 2021 I thought about the white leaves after posting! What do you mean by erase white paper? In AD or AP? Thanks! -paulw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulWilliamson Posted September 8, 2021 Author Share Posted September 8, 2021 I found something on-line which did it, at least good enough for my needs: https://onlineimagetools.com/create-transparent-image I did not mess with any of the settings, stayed with the defaults. Thanks! From now on I will only look for transparent png files! I was successful using Gimp a while back but it was still tedious. I suppose people start off by creating a transparent document. -paulw <Mod Edit>Copyright images Removed</Mod Edit> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telemax Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Blend_Ranges.mp4 Quote Non-destructive Mask https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/150439-non-destructive-mask/Image layer & Pixel layer https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/146720-image-layer-and-pixel-layer/Brushes | Stars https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/135202-brushes-stars/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 39 minutes ago, NotMyFault said: redraw the white leaves with white brush on pixel layer below There are quite a few (easily missed!) white flowers like these: Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 16.7.2 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotMyFault Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 9 minutes ago, Alfred said: There are quite a few (easily missed!) white flowers like these: Sure, it was only a tutorial how to do the work, not the finished work. Hi @telemax , your method is another great way giving similar result to Erase White Paper, but with more manual control 👍 but: still needs correction of the partial alpha on brighter colors. Otherwise you will experience a drastic color shift if you put a primary color fill layer behind (e.g. blue) Alfred 1 Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulWilliamson Posted September 8, 2021 Author Share Posted September 8, 2021 LunaPic did a decent job too. Amazing for an on-line tool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulWilliamson Posted September 8, 2021 Author Share Posted September 8, 2021 Wow! Amazing stuff in such a short amount of time! Thank you all! I learned a lot! -paulw Alfred 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wosven Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 Sorry to be a killjoy, but isn't this copyrighted materials? https://fr.123rf.com/photo_132090086_quatre-saisons-printemps-été-automne-hiver-arbre-d-art-magnifique-pour-votre-conception.html?vti=ngjz09p7aymz0gggtv-1-10 https://www.tenstickers.fr/stickers/sticker-arbre-printemps-605 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulWilliamson Posted September 8, 2021 Author Share Posted September 8, 2021 55 minutes ago, Wosven said: Sorry to be a killjoy, but isn't this copyrighted materials? https://fr.123rf.com/photo_132090086_quatre-saisons-printemps-été-automne-hiver-arbre-d-art-magnifique-pour-votre-conception.html?vti=ngjz09p7aymz0gggtv-1-10 https://www.tenstickers.fr/stickers/sticker-arbre-printemps-605 I bought it from Creative Market yesterday. Commercial license. Four seasons - spring, summer | Pre-Designed Vector Graphics ~ Creative Market Thanks for checking! -paulw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulWilliamson Posted September 8, 2021 Author Share Posted September 8, 2021 Are only self-made designs allowed to be posted here? I didn't occur to me that the image could be used by others. -pw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted September 8, 2021 Share Posted September 8, 2021 36 minutes ago, PaulWilliamson said: I bought it from Creative Market yesterday. Commercial license. Four seasons - spring, summer | Pre-Designed Vector Graphics ~ Creative Market In addition to the JPEG there’s a layered EPS version. Doesn’t that give you the transparent background you’re looking for? Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 16.7.2 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wosven Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 13 hours ago, PaulWilliamson said: re only self-made designs allowed to be posted here? I didn't occur to me that the image could be used by others. But it can be. And the one living by selling this design will have less sales. Part of the job when doing layout or similar creation, is to check images send to you were bought and not just googled. Or you simply buy them and add them to the invoiced. Photographers and illustrators have a hard time with stolen work, especially since Google and with sites offering free contents: some forget or never understood that not everything is free. That's the same problem as people asking you to work for free because it'll look great on your resumé/portfolio! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotMyFault Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, PaulWilliamson said: Are only self-made designs allowed to be posted here? I didn't occur to me that the image could be used by others. -pw Its more about the license from the website/ market where you bought it. It explicitly forbid make the file available for download in any place. I edited my older post to remove large screenshots as precautionary measure. Edited September 9, 2021 by NotMyFault Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Patrick Connor Posted September 9, 2021 Staff Share Posted September 9, 2021 @PaulWilliamson I have no doubt you posted the images here in good faith, but I have removed them now the permission issue has come to light. It seems you have learned many of the appropriate/available Affinity techniques now. I would also ask those who downloaded them to show you some techniques would also delete them now. Quote Patrick Connor Serif Europe Ltd Latest V2 releases on each platform Help make our apps better by joining our beta program! "There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man. True nobility lies in being superior to your previous self." W. L. Sheldon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telemax Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Patrick Connor said: I would also ask those who downloaded them to show you some techniques would also delete them now. Deleted Patrick Connor 1 Quote Non-destructive Mask https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/150439-non-destructive-mask/Image layer & Pixel layer https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/146720-image-layer-and-pixel-layer/Brushes | Stars https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/135202-brushes-stars/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanSG Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 Sorry to rat-hole this topic but I found this in the Creative Market licence terms:- "Can not be used: Website or app use As-is, must be modified from original" I could understand not modifying the image but why is it the other way round? Quote AP, AD & APub user, running Win10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 4 minutes ago, IanSG said: Sorry to rat-hole this topic but I found this in the Creative Market licence terms:- "Can not be used: Website or app use As-is, must be modified from original" I could understand not modifying the image but why is it the other way round? There are several sets of terms that apply to different uses. Where did you find that set? Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.3, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotMyFault Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, IanSG said: Sorry to rat-hole this topic but I found this in the Creative Market licence terms:- "Can not be used: Website or app use As-is, must be modified from original" I could understand not modifying the image but why is it the other way round? The seller wants to avoid that the original image gets publicly available on other websites, and becoming out of his control which license gets applied. Once you can download an original image e.g. in user forum sites, is practically lost for earning money, as the relation to the license gets lost (as we see in the example of this thread). Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanSG Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 2 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: There are several sets of terms that apply to different uses. Where did you find that set? Select "Commercial" under Licence Type on this page and then "More options". Quote AP, AD & APub user, running Win10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanSG Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, NotMyFault said: The seller wants to avoid that the original image gets publicly available on other websites, and becoming out of his control which license gets applied. Once you can download an original image e.g. in user forum sites, is practically lost for earning money, as the relation to the license gets lost (as we see in the example of this thread). Ok, but use on a website is already prohibited by the first bullet point. As I (miss)understand it the published image can't be copyable (for obvious reasons) and must be modified (at which point I lose the plot). Quote AP, AD & APub user, running Win10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 34 minutes ago, IanSG said: I could understand not modifying the image but why is it the other way round? You make an image and sell it to me and others for 10 bucks. I start selling that image for 5 bucks. How many more copies are you going to sell? PaulEC 1 Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.2 Affinity Designer 2.3.1 | Affinity Photo 2.3.1 | Affinity Publisher 2.3.1 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IanSG Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 3 minutes ago, Old Bruce said: You make an image and sell it to me and others for 10 bucks. I start selling that image for 5 bucks. How many more copies are you going to sell? I think you might need to let the lawyers have a look at your business model 😀 Quote AP, AD & APub user, running Win10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted September 9, 2021 Share Posted September 9, 2021 46 minutes ago, IanSG said: Select "Commercial" under Licence Type on this page and then "More options". Thanks. If you want to use it "as-is", or where it forms the primary part of the item you're selling, you need the "Extended Commercial" license, not the "Commercial" license. For that image, Extended is $100, where Commercial is only $10. Jenna Appleseed 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.3, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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