Sarah Gerster Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Hello everyone I hope this question wasn't already answered. I searched for quite some time and couldn't find anything. I'm working with affinity publisher and have the following issue: I tried to put a white outline around my text, which consists of a few lines. This looks perfectly fine in affinity. I can also export this page as a jpeg and the outline still is fine. But as soon as I export this as a pdf the outline of some of the text lines is gone. I already tried a few things like changing the export settings, write the text from scratch and set the outline again but nothing worked. I also tried to open the PDF with different programs to see if it is just an artefact but all programs I tested agree on what they show. I tried to create a minimal example. I also exported this example as PDF and it shows the same effect. I would really appreciate some help in solving this. Thank you in advance. :) Best regards Sarah MinimalExample.afpub MinimalExample.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 I am thinking you have somehow misapplied the stroke to the letters. I redid the selection and applied a 0.2 point stroke to the letters and exported. All was well. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.2 Affinity Designer 2.3.1 | Affinity Photo 2.3.1 | Affinity Publisher 2.3.1 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Gerster Posted August 27, 2021 Author Share Posted August 27, 2021 @Old Bruce Hm. How exactly did you apply the stroke? Because I just selected all the text, then removed the outline by clicking on the crossed color selection, reapplied the outline, went to the thickness, typed 0.2 and hit enter. The problem is still there. But it seems almost impossible to me that I somehow applied it wrong to only half the text when I selected all of it. Or did I misunderstood you? (I use the program in German). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Gerster Posted August 27, 2021 Author Share Posted August 27, 2021 (edited) I did another check: I changed the width of the outline to 0.5 and the color to red. Everything looks perfect in affinity. Again half of the red outline is gone in pdf, despite I made all changes when all of the text was selected. Also, I only copied and pasted the text before. At no point in the workflow I edited only a single line or word. Is it possible that something is wrong with my version of affinity? I use the newest update and Windows. Edited August 27, 2021 by Sarah Gerster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Gerster Posted August 27, 2021 Author Share Posted August 27, 2021 When I create a completely new document and a completely new text frame it works correctly. But without knowing why this happens I need to layout the complete document again from scratch. 😢 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Perhaps it is your Paragraph style interfering with this, I deleted it as I do not have the font. Made a new one with Arial as the font. I just noticed that you have somehow applied the same paragraph style twice. Very odd. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.2 Affinity Designer 2.3.1 | Affinity Photo 2.3.1 | Affinity Publisher 2.3.1 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Gerster Posted August 27, 2021 Author Share Posted August 27, 2021 @Old Bruce The thing with the same style twice is not by intention. I'm very new to affinity and obviously I still didn't manage to use the styles correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 5 minutes ago, Sarah Gerster said: When I create a completely new document and a completely new text frame it works correctly. But without knowing why this happens I need to layout the complete document again from scratch. 😢 Reapply your Paragraph styles. Make a Character Style with the outline and use that to outline the text you have selected. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.2 Affinity Designer 2.3.1 | Affinity Photo 2.3.1 | Affinity Publisher 2.3.1 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David in Яuislip Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Well the pdf export for Print works ok on Windows 10, APub 1.10.1, albeit with a font substitution MinimalExampleDiR.pdf Quote Microsoft Windows 11 Home, Intel i7-1360P 2.20 GHz, 32 GB RAM, 1TB SSD, Intel Iris Xe Affinity Photo - 24/05/20, Affinity Publisher - 06/12/20, KTM Superduke - 27/09/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Sarah Gerster said: I'm very new to affinity and obviously I still didn't manage to use the styles correctly. To reapply the styles Select the text by using the text caret and select all the text then go to Text > Reapply Text Styles or Text > Reapply Base Styles. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.2 Affinity Designer 2.3.1 | Affinity Photo 2.3.1 | Affinity Publisher 2.3.1 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Gerster Posted August 27, 2021 Author Share Posted August 27, 2021 @Old Bruce Thanks. I'll try. As soon as I understood how to use these styles correctly. It seems as if I still have a lot of mistakes in the document. I can't even see that I applied the style twice or why it is applied twice.. ^^ As far as I can tell I used the same style and font in the new document where the outline worked. But I'm a little unsure about this right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Gerster Posted August 27, 2021 Author Share Posted August 27, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, David in Яuislip said: Well the pdf export for Print works ok on Windows 10, APub 1.10.1, albeit with a font substitution MinimalExampleDiR.pdf 1.69 MB · 1 download @David in Яuislip Does this mean that the outline in the PDF looks correct on your computer? Because it doesn't on mine. I will try to change the font. Edited August 27, 2021 by Sarah Gerster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Gerster Posted August 27, 2021 Author Share Posted August 27, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Old Bruce said: I just noticed that you have somehow applied the same paragraph style twice. Very odd. @Old Bruce Could this be because I told affinity to use the style on both the paragraph and the characters? This is a bit confusing because I can define the settings for the paragraphs also in the character style. Should I create and use two different styles anyway? Edited August 27, 2021 by Sarah Gerster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David in Яuislip Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Sarah Gerster said: Does this mean that the outline in the PDF looks correct on your computer? Because it doesn't on mine I've just done it again based on your original afpub file and it has gone wrong, I have no idea how I originally got it to work Quote Microsoft Windows 11 Home, Intel i7-1360P 2.20 GHz, 32 GB RAM, 1TB SSD, Intel Iris Xe Affinity Photo - 24/05/20, Affinity Publisher - 06/12/20, KTM Superduke - 27/09/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Sarah Gerster said: This is a bit confusing because I can define the settings for the paragraphs also in the character style. Should I create and use two different styles anyway? I would set up the Paragraph Style in the Text Styles to have the font, size, weight, leading, spacing between paragraphs, Left/Centre/Right justification or not and other stuff. There should be no outline here. I would now set up a Character Style Called Outline and I would have it based on the Paragraph Style I just created, the only thing I would change is the outline, the size and colour. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.2 Affinity Designer 2.3.1 | Affinity Photo 2.3.1 | Affinity Publisher 2.3.1 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Gerster Posted August 27, 2021 Author Share Posted August 27, 2021 (edited) Ok. As far as I can tell, I deleted my style for the paragraph and the characters. I applied an outline to Arial text and the export still fails. Edited August 27, 2021 by Sarah Gerster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Gerster Posted August 27, 2021 Author Share Posted August 27, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, David in Яuislip said: I've just done it again based on your original afpub file and it has gone wrong, I have no idea how I originally got it to work I totally understand because this happended to me a few hours ago. (I just reached the limit of posts for today... So thanks a lot for your help and see you tomorrow. ^^ ) Edited August 27, 2021 by Sarah Gerster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 @Sarah Gerster Here are some starting points. Untitled.afpub Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.2 Affinity Designer 2.3.1 | Affinity Photo 2.3.1 | Affinity Publisher 2.3.1 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 @Sarah Gerster New and improved, now with embedded pictures. Untitled.afpub Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.2 Affinity Designer 2.3.1 | Affinity Photo 2.3.1 | Affinity Publisher 2.3.1 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Dan C Posted August 31, 2021 Staff Share Posted August 31, 2021 Hi @Sarah Gerster, Welcome to the Affinity Forums Can you please confirm, did the suggestions above resolve this issue for you - or are you still having trouble here? Many thanks in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sarah Gerster Posted August 31, 2021 Author Share Posted August 31, 2021 2 hours ago, Dan C said: Hi @Sarah Gerster, Welcome to the Affinity Forums Can you please confirm, did the suggestions above resolve this issue for you - or are you still having trouble here? Many thanks in advance! I couldn't resolve the issue unfortunately. For my project I finally decided to not use text outlines. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Gerster Posted August 31, 2021 Author Share Posted August 31, 2021 42 minutes ago, Lagarto said: I think that the problem is simply in applying the stroke using inside alignment style with a font that has varying line thickness. With certain glyphs this causes overlapping of the stoke in a way that cannot be rendered. The problem can be fixed either by using center alignment style, of reducing the width of the stroke. Many apps, e.g. Illustrator, does not even allow applying inside alignment style with fonts, probably because these kinds of issues. MinimalExample_centerline.pdf 1.31 MB · 0 downloads Hm. I'm sorry, maybe I don't understand it correctly but this would mean that the outline simply doesn't work with my font or some characters of this font, right? But the strange thing is that the outline works for some lines of text but not for others in the same document with the same fonts and settings. That means: It can work for a character in one line and in the next line it doesn't work anymore for the same character. And I also have this issue with other fonts like Arial. Furthermore, the issue seems to vanish completely if I start a completely new document and appears again when I try to import pages from my old project. I personally think that something broke in my document when I installed the newest version of Affinity during the process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sarah Gerster Posted August 31, 2021 Author Share Posted August 31, 2021 (edited) @Lagarto But in your example the outline is only missing for some parts of the character. This is how it looks in my case: The first picture is how it looks in the PDF. The second how it looks in Affinity. As you can see, the outline looks in principle ok, but suddenly it is completely gone. Edited August 31, 2021 by Sarah Gerster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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