WMax70 Posted August 8, 2021 Posted August 8, 2021 Affinity Photo Custom Ratio orientation issue (Custom) ratios are not orientation aware any longer. The previous version was correct, but an older issue (now from older versions) pops up again with this version. Now I have to set the custom ratio correct all the time for any portret orientated photos. Quote
Ron P. Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 I agree, it ignores the orientation. WMax70 1 Quote Affinity Photo 2.5..; Affinity Designer 2.5..; Affinity Publisher 2.5..; Affinity2 Beta versions. Affinity Photo,Designer 1.10.6.1605 Win10 Home Version:21H2, Build: 19044.1766: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5820K CPU @ 3.30GHz, 3301 Mhz, 6 Core(s), 12 Logical Processor(s);32GB Ram, Nvidia GTX 3070, 3-Internal HDD (1 Crucial MX5000 1TB, 1-Crucial MX5000 500GB, 1-WD 1 TB), 4 External HDD
Staff Chris B Posted August 9, 2021 Staff Posted August 9, 2021 This is by design. The presets are landscape as it's perfectly reasonable to want to crop a portrait image to a 2:1 landscape crop. You can for now, make your own presets. There's also the Rotate button too if you're finding it a hassle. PaulEC 1 Quote How to format a bug report | Learning Resources | List of V2 FAQs | YouTube Tutorials
walt.farrell Posted August 9, 2021 Posted August 9, 2021 6 minutes ago, Chris B said: You can for now, make your own presets. Thanks. Is that new, Chris? I know we've been able to make presets, but as I recall if there was already a 2:1 preset it used to reject the creation of a 1:2 preset. Now, though, that seems to work. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.3, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.0.1
carl123 Posted August 10, 2021 Posted August 10, 2021 8 hours ago, walt.farrell said: Thanks. Is that new, Chris? I know we've been able to make presets, but as I recall if there was already a 2:1 preset it used to reject the creation of a 1:2 preset. Now, though, that seems to work. From a beta.... Fixed the crop tool to allow portrait ratio presets walt.farrell 1 Quote To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time.
WMax70 Posted August 10, 2021 Author Posted August 10, 2021 I needed to created the (additional and same) presets due to lack of auto detection of orientation. As said, the previous Affinity versions did provide portrait and landscape detection for ratio settings. I do understand I can create my own presets, I made some already in the past for flyer formats etc. However, around 50% of my flow is portrait mode. Now I have to scroll all the time for the most basic portrait presets, which were auto detected for landscape and portrait before. I have to scroll through all (double) presets because, the menu-screen in no long enough and not giving multiple columns. This reduced my workflow (click) speed, and one of the inprovements of affinity was improved speed. By reducing those simple settings, the program speed may be faster, but the output flow is slower. That's due to the number of click and scroll handling I have to do. So yes, things which are not in the tool, can be created by presets etc, but this bit of intelligence was in Affinty and is now gone. Lem3 1 Quote
Ron P. Posted August 11, 2021 Posted August 11, 2021 On 8/9/2021 at 1:04 PM, Chris B said: This is by design. The presets are landscape as it's perfectly reasonable to want to crop a portrait image to a 2:1 landscape crop. You can for now, make your own presets. There's also the Rotate button too if you're finding it a hassle. Was it by design in the 1.9 versions or with the 1.10? This is what @WMax70 is pointing out. Why would they change it, when it did recognize and honor orientation, to not? Makes no sense at all. Lem3 1 Quote Affinity Photo 2.5..; Affinity Designer 2.5..; Affinity Publisher 2.5..; Affinity2 Beta versions. Affinity Photo,Designer 1.10.6.1605 Win10 Home Version:21H2, Build: 19044.1766: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5820K CPU @ 3.30GHz, 3301 Mhz, 6 Core(s), 12 Logical Processor(s);32GB Ram, Nvidia GTX 3070, 3-Internal HDD (1 Crucial MX5000 1TB, 1-Crucial MX5000 500GB, 1-WD 1 TB), 4 External HDD
Staff Chris B Posted August 11, 2021 Staff Posted August 11, 2021 The intention is to use the existing presets in 1.10 in a landscape orientation. We changed it so you could make portrait presets as before we could not have duplicate ratios. On 8/10/2021 at 8:28 AM, WMax70 said: Now I have to scroll all the time for the most basic portrait presets, which were auto detected for landscape and portrait before. If you used the 2:1 preset and it is now giving you a landscape crop which you do not want, simply Rotate the current preset and add this new preset from the Cog icon in Common Ratios and call is 1:2. You can then manage it and move it to the top so you no longer have to scroll. Gregory St. Laurent 1 Quote How to format a bug report | Learning Resources | List of V2 FAQs | YouTube Tutorials
Staff Chris B Posted August 11, 2021 Staff Posted August 11, 2021 Just to add, I think 2:1 is technically correct as a landscape crop. 1:2 would be a portrait crop. I've just checked a few apps (including on my phone) and the 2:1 crops are all landscape. Quote How to format a bug report | Learning Resources | List of V2 FAQs | YouTube Tutorials
WMax70 Posted August 11, 2021 Author Posted August 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Chris B said: Just to add, I think 2:1 is technically correct as a landscape crop. 1:2 would be a portrait crop. I've just checked a few apps (including on my phone) and the 2:1 crops are all landscape. No problem, I now use the rotate button. Point is that it was not there in the first releases (I started pretty early with Affinity) and later it came in, I found it an intelligent feature. In almost all it was right. We can debate if 2:1 is not 1:2 for portrait, but the fact is that auto-rotate function came in later and now it is taken out again. I use the rotated "2:1" more often in portrait than the current 2:1 which I almost always need to rotate. I call this a so called UX which worked perfect but is taken out. However, I found the rotate button in meantime because of the UX intelligent feature is taken out for technical correct feature. You might question what is most important. I leave that up to you. Chris B 1 Quote
WMax70 Posted August 26, 2021 Author Posted August 26, 2021 Just an idea wrt to the custom ratios rotation intelligence In the past, Affinity had some intelligence to understand if I'm working on a portrait of landscape image. We have had some discussion why this intelligence might have been removed. However, If I'm working in a bunch of images it would be great if I could "toggle" the rotation button instead of having a push button. With the rotation button toggled, a custom selection auto rotates when selected fro the costum ratio menu. Often I test different ratio's and now I have to rotate and resize them all the time because it does not the borders when rotated. When a rotate is toggled, all aspect ratios selected will be in a rotated mode and will hit the borders like before the intelligent way of working when using a portrait or landscape. If this toggle function has restrictions an a push button is needed a toggle selection button might also be an option. Once activated the button Rotate will act as toggle or if not selected as a push button. Simple solutions which might help to avoid continues pressing the rotation button and resizing the selection to hit the borders. Quote
WMax70 Posted September 23, 2021 Author Posted September 23, 2021 On 8/11/2021 at 5:15 PM, Chris B said: Just to add, I think 2:1 is technically correct as a landscape crop. 1:2 would be a portrait crop. I've just checked a few apps (including on my phone) and the 2:1 crops are all landscape. Dear Chris B, I bought a licence fro Lightroom and Photoshop now. Within lightroom, the auto orientation awareness is in here. Meaning, if I compare Affinity with Adobe Photoshop and / or lightroom Classic, Affinity degraded itself compared to Adobe Lightroom / Photoshop. However, I now set the orientation in Adobe lightroom classic, which works perfect and fast just like it did before in Affinity, but which is offered with th elast update where "technical" correctness seems to be more inportant than correct User experience and intellgence?! I don't know against which apps the technical orientation was compared, but let's say, the market leading program Adaobe Lightroom is market leading and the standard because of many user use it, love it and because it has clever intelligence in iot which makes processing fast instead of an orientation od techncal correctness. I also noticed many more very nice options missing in Affinity. 1) like the indication of highlights and lowlights) in the histogram. Affinity only a question mark with no idea where it is in the image. 2) Also still missing the color correction card read-out for profiling 3) Read-out of sidecar file from eg Nikon NX Studio and or lightroom 4) Some realtime "movable" vignet option like Luminar AI or a radial Gradient lighr Lightroom with even much more options. It makes vigent much more artistic and useful! To be honnest, since this "stupid" clever orientation went out I really started to look to alternatives. Cropping is one ot the most used tooling to get the correct composition. But ok, fine that someone prefers technical correct options above fast workflows and user experience. Quote
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