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Dear Affinity development team,

the Designer is a powerful tool, I am thrilled! But the screen design still looks a bit dumb and awkward. So I think that the guidelines and the print margin could be significantly thinner. They much too fat.

Take a look at the screen design from Indesign, it looks professional and the guidelines are reduced to the bare essentials (very thin). I would like the same for the designer (along with a few other functional features).

Best Regards Georg

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Welcome to the Serif Affinity forums, @GeorgGS.

I have never thought either of those were "too fat" in Designer, but I don't have InDesign to make a comparison. Could you perhaps provide example screenshots from both applications to help me understand this better?

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I’ve just taken a screenshot of a document at 100% and then zoomed in to see the guides and margins and they are not, as I assumed, a single pixel wide – they are both two pixels wide with some antialiasing.
This could be what the OP is remarking upon.
I would have thought that these lines would only be a single pixel wide but they aren’t, in my quick experiment at least.
This may be due to my document not being at perfect pixel alignment on-screen but I don’t think that should really matter.
Guides and margins, in my opinion with my limited knowledge and experience, should be ‘single-dimensional’ and, as such, I would have thought that they should only ever be one pixel in width at all times.
Of course, I could be missing something here.

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Posted
7 hours ago, GarryP said:

Of course, I could be missing something here.

Pixel density and screen display resolution? On my screen I kept getting 3 pixels for the width.

If you have the guide snapped to a Pixel on the Document, it doesn't translate to a pixel on the monitor. And with screenshots it is the monitor we are copying.

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I’ve just tried another experiment:
1. Create a new document which is 100×100px (72 DPI, but shouldn’t matter);
2. Add margins at 20px via Document Setup;
3. Add horizontal/vertical guides at 10px via the Guides Manager;
4. Add square at 30×30px with a stroke of 1px (stroke to inside);
5. Zoom to 100% by double-clicking the Zoom Tool;
6. Use PrtScn key to take a copy of the screen;
7. Paste into Designer as a new document.
As you can see from my attached image, when I zoom in, none of the guides or margins are one pixel wide.
This might be what is supposed to happen but it isn’t what I would expect to see.
I would expect 1 single-pixel-width guide/margin line to be one pixel in width at 100% zoom, as they are with the square.
I suspect that the margins and guides are displayed with their centres at their given position and that’s why they are blurred – e.g. spread over two pixels.
I believe this is what the OP was complaining about.
(I have no idea about pixel density and my monitor is a very cheap HD one.)

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Posted (edited)

The drawing of lines (margin, guide) depends on the pixel position of the document relative to the pixel position of the monitor/screen.
This is the same document, but after changing the horizontal and vertical position of the document using the scrollbar.

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Depending on how the color of the lines changes, it is obvious that it is a drawing of a 1px thick line at different pixel positions - this changes both the number of affected pixels and their resulting color.

But it is interesting that the grid (10 px) is always drawn accurately.

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Edit: Almost optimal position of the document on the screen.

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Edited by Pšenda

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  • 2 weeks later...
Posted

Hey all in this thread,

sorry for my late reaction. You've discussed it very, very good and it is exact that, what I ment.

I made just some screenshots on my MacBook Pro with ID3 and Affinity Publisher installed. Perhaps you can see it, what I mean?
But some of you showed it in their posting: The guides and margins are more than 1 px wide (even with antialiasing etc.).
That seems to be that, what I wanted to say with my first posting.

Perhaps the print margins are also dynamically dimensioned (depending on the zoom factor) of the view? At least differently dynamic than in Indesign ?!

Have all many thanks for your great work to discuss this... (And sorry for my poor english!!!)...

Best Regards
Georg

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