Scrollbar knob size (very minor nitpick)

[MikeTO]

I believe there's supposed to be a minimum knob size for scrollbars on macOS. With a very long document in Publisher, the knob shrinks to a small circle rather than to the standard minimum size you see in macOS. Would it be possible to implement the system standard minimum size to make the knob easier to grab? Thanks.

[Old Bruce]

23 minutes ago, MikeTO said:

I believe there's supposed to be a minimum knob size for scrollbars on macOS.

I believe you are correct, unfortunately that minimum size is incredibly tiny. Over at Apple somebody dropped the ball several years ago and everyone working there has either  forgotten about it or never even knew about it.

[MikeTO]

2 hours ago, Old Bruce said:

I believe you are correct, unfortunately that minimum size is incredibly tiny. Over at Apple somebody dropped the ball several years ago and everyone working there has either  forgotten about it or never even knew about it.

Agreed, you and I are both old-timers and Apple appears to have forgotten why some of their standards were the way they were. Or that at one time there were standards. 🙂

But the minimum scroll knob size in standard macOS apps is significantly larger than in the Affinity apps. In this screenshot the Affinity knob is on the left while the macOS minimum from TextEdit and Notes is on the right.

[Old Bruce]

Yes MikeTO I just checked and the Affinity ones are all the way down to dots versus the dash you show. Didn't check too many other applications but it is extra super tiny in Affinity vs. super tiny everywhere else. I would like just plain tiny, but I can live with it.

[Dan C]

Hi @MikeTO,

Many thanks for your feedback!

I wasn't personally aware there is an expected minimum size for this handle on macOS, so thanks for bringing this to our attention

I've moved your thread to the Feedback section of the forums, however I will inform our developers regarding this to see if we can increase the size of the smallest scale handle when you have a long document in Publisher etc.

I hope this helps!

[MikeTO]

3 hours ago, Dan C said:

I wasn't personally aware there is an expected minimum size for this handle on macOS, so thanks for bringing this to our attention

No worries, this is very minor. It was just that for a second I thought it was part of the text styles studio panel given how it had lined up with a text style name. In dark mode, scrollbars with tiny knobs don't look like scrollbars, I thought it was something new in the UI that you'd added for manipulating the studio panel.

FWIW, here's Microsoft's description and formula for the min knob/thumb size. Apple used to specify a min height in pixels but I couldn't find that right now.