Seneca Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 Changing the margins after the lock has been applied using the same input field doesn't update other fields. The only way to change the margins is to do it from another field. See the screencast below. lock.mov loukash 1 Quote 2017 27” iMac 4.2 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 • Radeon Pr 580 8GB • 64GB • Ventura 13.6.4. iPad Pro (10.5-inch) • 256GB • Version 16.4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 I think this is due to the fact that you are not actually changing the value (15 before and after) in the Inner field. I do agree that it is disconcerting and I too consider it a bug but I'll wager it is one that proves very difficult to squish. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.4 Affinity Designer 2.4.1 | Affinity Photo 2.4.1 | Affinity Publisher 2.4.1 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seneca Posted June 29, 2021 Author Share Posted June 29, 2021 24 minutes ago, Old Bruce said: I too consider it a bug but I'll wager it is one that proves very difficult to squish. Hi @Old Bruce, it should be difficult. InDesign handles it beautifully. In fact, it remembers the latest input value and it changes all other fields as soon as you enable the lock. In other words, even if you forget to enable the lock, it will still apply that change to other fields as soon as the lock is enabled. Quote 2017 27” iMac 4.2 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 • Radeon Pr 580 8GB • 64GB • Ventura 13.6.4. iPad Pro (10.5-inch) • 256GB • Version 16.4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Seneca said: ...it remembers the latest input value and it changes all other fields as soon as you enable the lock. In other words, even if you forget to enable the lock, it will still apply that change to other fields as soon as the lock is enabled. I think that is the sort of thing we both want for this. So I would enter a change by typing 1 then 5 then when I click on the linked/lock symbol the Application would 'remember' the 1 and 5 as a finished 15 and apply it to that field then update the other fields because I am linking/locking them. What about the reverse, if InDesign has the link/lock applied and I start to change from all 15s to one where I enter ten then hit unlink/unlock? Do I get ten, 15, 15 and 15 or ten, ten, ten and ten? I would want the former. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.4 Affinity Designer 2.4.1 | Affinity Photo 2.4.1 | Affinity Publisher 2.4.1 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loukash Posted June 29, 2021 Share Posted June 29, 2021 Just yesterday I also noticed some odd margins behavior with the latest betas. I haven't inspected it in deep though as I had actual work to do. But something is definitely broken. Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seneca Posted June 29, 2021 Author Share Posted June 29, 2021 5 hours ago, Old Bruce said: What about the reverse, if InDesign has the link/lock applied and I start to change from all 15s to one where I enter ten then hit unlink/unlock? Do I get ten, 15, 15 and 15 or ten, ten, ten and ten? You'll get all 10s. And you are right unlink is a better term here, I think. Quote 2017 27” iMac 4.2 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 • Radeon Pr 580 8GB • 64GB • Ventura 13.6.4. iPad Pro (10.5-inch) • 256GB • Version 16.4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 That is what I would want. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.4 Affinity Designer 2.4.1 | Affinity Photo 2.4.1 | Affinity Publisher 2.4.1 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted June 30, 2021 Share Posted June 30, 2021 5 hours ago, Old Bruce said: That is what I would want. Earlier you seemed to say you would want 10, 15, 15, 15 and now you seem to be saying you'd want 10, 10, 10, 10? Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Gabe Posted June 30, 2021 Staff Share Posted June 30, 2021 Hi all, This is not really a bug. As Old Bruce pointed it out, you're not really changing the value. Moved to feature requests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seneca Posted July 1, 2021 Author Share Posted July 1, 2021 10 hours ago, Gabe said: This is not really a bug. As Old Bruce pointed it out, you're not really changing the value. Respectfully, I disagree. Consider this scenario: I want to create a new document with all margins set to 10. I type number 10 in one of the margin fields and only then I realise that I forgot to click on the bind icon to force all fields to the same value. I click on the bind icon and I retype 10 in the same field and tab away but nothing changes. I may not have changed the value of the field but I have changed the meaning of my action by enabling the bind icon. Quote 2017 27” iMac 4.2 GHz Quad-Core Intel Core i7 • Radeon Pr 580 8GB • 64GB • Ventura 13.6.4. iPad Pro (10.5-inch) • 256GB • Version 16.4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted July 1, 2021 Share Posted July 1, 2021 12 hours ago, Seneca said: onsider this scenario: I want to create a new document with all margins set to 10. I type number 10 in one of the margin fields and only then I realise that I forgot to click on the bind icon to force all fields to the same value. I click on the bind icon and I retype 10 in the same field and tab away but nothing changes. I just checked and that happens here on OS 10.14.6. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.4 Affinity Designer 2.4.1 | Affinity Photo 2.4.1 | Affinity Publisher 2.4.1 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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