Margins Input Fields broken in latest beta and release versions

[Seneca]

Changing the margins after the lock has been applied using the same input field doesn't update other fields. The only way to change the margins is to do it from another field.

See the screencast below.

[Old Bruce]

I think this is due to the fact that you are not actually changing the value (15 before and after) in the Inner field. I do agree that it is disconcerting and I too consider it a bug but I'll wager it is one that proves very difficult to squish. 

[Seneca]

24 minutes ago, Old Bruce said:

I too consider it a bug but I'll wager it is one that proves very difficult to squish. 

Hi @Old Bruce, it should be difficult. InDesign handles it beautifully. In fact, it remembers the latest input value and it changes all other fields as soon as you enable the lock. In other words, even if you forget to enable the lock, it will still apply that change to other fields as soon as the lock is enabled.

[Old Bruce]

1 hour ago, Seneca said:

...it remembers the latest input value and it changes all other fields as soon as you enable the lock. In other words, even if you forget to enable the lock, it will still apply that change to other fields as soon as the lock is enabled.

I think that is the sort of thing we both want for this. 

So I would enter a change by typing 1 then 5 then when I click on the linked/lock symbol the Application would 'remember' the 1 and 5 as a finished 15 and apply it to that field then update the other fields because I am linking/locking them.

What about the reverse, if InDesign has the link/lock applied and I start to change from all 15s to one where I enter ten then hit unlink/unlock? Do I get ten, 15, 15 and 15 or ten, ten, ten and ten? 

I would want the former.

[loukash]

Just yesterday I also noticed some odd margins behavior with the latest betas. I haven't inspected it in deep though as I had actual work to do. But something is definitely broken.

[Seneca]

5 hours ago, Old Bruce said:

What about the reverse, if InDesign has the link/lock applied and I start to change from all 15s to one where I enter ten then hit unlink/unlock? Do I get ten, 15, 15 and 15 or ten, ten, ten and ten? 

You'll get all 10s. And you are right unlink is a better term here, I think.

[Old Bruce]

That is what I would want.

[walt.farrell]

5 hours ago, Old Bruce said:

That is what I would want.

Earlier you seemed to say you would want 10, 15, 15, 15 and now you seem to be saying you'd want 10, 10, 10, 10?

 

[Gabe]

Hi all,

This is not really a bug. As Old Bruce pointed it out, you're not really changing the value. 

Moved to feature requests. 

[Seneca]

10 hours ago, Gabe said:

This is not really a bug. As Old Bruce pointed it out, you're not really changing the value. 

Respectfully, I disagree. 

Consider this scenario: I want to create a new document with all margins set to 10. I type number 10 in one of the margin fields and only then I realise that I forgot to click on the bind icon to force all fields to the same value. I click on the bind icon and I retype 10 in the same field and tab away but nothing changes.

I may not have changed the value of the field but I have changed the meaning of my action by enabling the bind icon.

 

[Old Bruce]

12 hours ago, Seneca said:

onsider this scenario: I want to create a new document with all margins set to 10. I type number 10 in one of the margin fields and only then I realise that I forgot to click on the bind icon to force all fields to the same value. I click on the bind icon and I retype 10 in the same field and tab away but nothing changes.

I just checked and that happens here on OS 10.14.6.