Eddy-2 Posted June 26, 2021 Posted June 26, 2021 Designer beta 1.10.0.1085 - Windows 10 I have a linear fill which I'm trying to make grey - white - grey. In the edit fill window I select the centre node... In the swatches panel I select white. This changes the colour of the left node, not the centre one...
Eddy-2 Posted June 26, 2021 Author Posted June 26, 2021 After a few more operations I end up with the attached drawing. edit_linear_fill.afdesign
walt.farrell Posted June 26, 2021 Posted June 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, Eddy-2 said: In the swatches panel I select white. This changes the colour of the left node, not the centre one... Why did you go to the Swatches panel? You have a perfectly good color chooser in the dialog you showed us. Just click on it and pick your color. And that keeps the context of which node in the gradient is selected. The retail version works the same way, for me. -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.5, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.5
Eddy-2 Posted June 26, 2021 Author Posted June 26, 2021 I've forgotten my exact procedures Walt but I don't think the edit is working properly. My first step was to make the left node colour identical to the right but that wasn't as easy as I expected. In fact, when compared with the dead-easy process in PagePlus, it was difficult. I've just tried the first step again from the beginning and get that shown below. Unless I'm missing something the left node in the edit window should not be white.
walt.farrell Posted June 26, 2021 Posted June 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, Eddy-2 said: Unless I'm missing something the left node in the edit window should not be white. That's how gradients in Affinity start out. They run from white to gray, by default. It looks a bit odd because the Fill shown in the Context Toolbar is pure gray, but that will change once you click on a node in the gradient. -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.5, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.5
Eddy-2 Posted June 26, 2021 Author Posted June 26, 2021 Thanks again Walt but if it is working correctly, which I don't think it is, it's certainly not intuitive. In PagePlus, when I click on an object with a gradient fill, the fill editor shows how it is, not how it thinks it should be. I've just downloaded the current retail version and will see how I go on with that.
walt.farrell Posted June 26, 2021 Posted June 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Eddy-2 said: In PagePlus, when I click on an object with a gradient fill, the fill editor shows how it is, not how it thinks it should be. That happens in Affinity, too, when you have an object with a gradient fill. In your last screenshot, you had an object with a solid fill, and were about to create a gradient fill. That will start out white-to-gray, as you showed, until you have made some change. -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.5, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.5
Staff Sean P Posted June 28, 2021 Staff Posted June 28, 2021 Hi Eddy-2 Everything is working as intended here. However you do need to be aware that the Gradient Flyout selected node isn't unfortunately reflected on the document. If you notice the one on the document has a larger node to indicate which is selected - when you select a node via the Colour Panel it will use the selected node on the document, NOT the one in the Gradient Flyout. I think this is where the un-intuitiveness is coming it. I agree that this is confusing and bad UI and we do have an improvement listed with development that the two should be linked and changing one should be reflected in the other. I've attached two videos showing the process of applying via the Flyout and also via the Colour Panel. Hopefully that helps you somewhat. Gradient1.mp4 Gradient2.mp4
Eddy-2 Posted June 28, 2021 Author Posted June 28, 2021 Thanks Sean. I have a tendency to go off the beaten track and find myself doing the 'wrong' thing. I suspect I went off at a tangent the other day and ended in a cul-de-sac. That said, some of the dead easy edit-fill processes I've been used to in PagePlus are more long-winded in Designer - for example, giving a gradient fill's start (or end) node the identical colour to the end (or start) node. Copying and pasting the RGB Hex Slider's part number seems to be the only way to do it. There seems to be anomalies in the edit fill UI operation and if you don't mind, I'd like to keep this thread open to ask about these when they crop up. The attached cropped up yesterday. fill-editor-1.afdesign
Staff Sean P Posted June 28, 2021 Staff Posted June 28, 2021 Hi Eddy, You're nodes in that document are on top of each other - if you select the gradient tool and drag it out you will have positioned the Handles where you can see the gradient and they can be moved. 30 minutes ago, Eddy-2 said: if you don't mind, I'd like to keep this thread open to ask about these when they crop up. This is the beta forum, and is specifically used for reporting issues that affect only the current beta versions of the apps. Your issues seem to come from the actual use of the tools as opposed to actual bugs and are better posted in the questions forum below. Other users are more likely to see the issues you're having and help you with them. I would also suggest taking a look at this video and the documentation regarding Gradient Editing.https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/forum/5-affinity-on-desktop-questions-mac-and-windows/
Eddy-2 Posted June 28, 2021 Author Posted June 28, 2021 Update. A visit to the questions forum and the "copying colours between documents?" topic seems to have solved my original problem of quickly copying a linear fill's start node's colour to the end node, and vice versa. The following ignores the edit fill window. Select the linear-filled object with the fill tool. Click the fill's start node to select it. Its colour shows up in the Colour panel. Colour-pick the node's colour in the Colour panel. This shows up in the panel's colour well. Click the end node to select it. Click the colour well in the Colour panel. Job done.
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