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Flowing Filler Text to additional pages crashes Publisher 1.10.0.1098 Beta


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Recipe:

  1. Create a new document with 3 Facing pages and a Master.
  2. On the Master, draw a Text Frame on the left page, filling the page from border to border. Click the linking icon, and draw another identical one on the right page.
  3. Switch to page 1, right-click, and Insert Filler Text. (Sample document below was saved at this point.)
  4. Shift+Click on the linking icon to flow the Filler Text onto pages 2 and 3.
  5. In 1.9.2.1035 step 4 works. In 1.10.0.1098 Publisher crashes.

3-page-filler-text-1100.afpub

 

2dd99980-e7f6-4256-914d-e67a7912539e.dmp

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
PC:
    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
iPad:  iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard 
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Ich kann das mit dem Dokument von Walt nachvollziehen.

 

Hier ein ähnliches Beispiel (ohne Fülltext und unterschiedlich grossen Rahmen):

  1. Erstelle ein neues Dokument mit 3 gegenüberliegenden Seiten und einem Master.
  2. Zeichne auf dem Master einen Textrahmen auf der linken Seite und einen Textrahmen auf der rechten Seite (die grösse und Position des Rahmens spielt keine Rolle).
  3. Verknüpfe die beiden Textrahmen.
  4. Wechsle zu Seite 1 und aktiviere den Textrahmen (Fülltext nicht nötig).
  5. Shift+Klicke auf das Verknüpfungssymbol.
  6. In 1.9.2.1035 funktioniert Schritt 5. In 1.10.0.1098 stürzt Publisher ab.

 

I can follow this with Walt's document.

Here is a similar example (without filler text and different sized frames):

  1. Create a new document with 3 facing pages and a master. 
  2. Draw on the master a text frame on the left side and a text frame on the right side (the size and position of the frame does not matter).
  3. Link the two text frames.
  4. Switch to page 1 and activate the text frame (fill text is not necessary).
  5. Shift+click on the linking icon.
  6. In 1.9.2.1035 step 4 works. In 1.10.0.1098 Publisher crashes.

 

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I can reproduce the crash, as described by Walt and Andreas.

Cheers

Affinity Photo 2.4:         Affinity Photo 1.10.6: 

Affinity Designer 2.4:    Affinity Designer 1.10.6:

Affinity Publisher 2.4:   Affinity Publisher 1.10.6:    

Windows 11 Pro  (Version 23H2 Build (22631.3296)

 

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I can't reproduce it  [Publisher  Beta 1.10.0.1098] because I find that I cannot Shift + Click on the linking icon on page 1.  If I try that, nothing happens.  I can only link frames by simply clicking on the link icon on page 1 and then move cursor to the next text frame [on page 2].  
If I link fame on page 1 to frame on page 2 first and then insert filler text in frame on page 1, then all three frames [pages 1, 2 and 3] all fill without any crash.

A further point. 
i) If text frames are put onto the Master pages and linked, there is no automatic link made between a right hand page and the following left hand page. Thus there is no link between page 1 and page 2  which is why I have to manually link page 1 to page 2
and
ii) if you insert another page after an odd numbered (right hand page), there is no link between that odd numbered  and the next page but I find that by inserting the missing link by clicking on the linking icon on the right hand page and selecting the following text frame (on the next left hand page), then the text flow works .

autoflow text frames.afpub

 

 

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Affinity Designer 1.9.2.1035, Photo 1.9.2.1035, Publisher 1.9.2.1035 
Affinity Designer Beta 1.10.0.1085, Photo Beta 1.10.0.1085, Publisher  Beta 1.10.0.1098

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13 minutes ago, PMan said:

i) If text frames are put onto the Master pages and linked, there is no automatic link made between a right hand page and the following left hand page. Thus there is no link between page 1 and page 2  which is why I have to manually link page 1 to page 2

The links between page 1 and page 2 are not automatically created in 1.9.2, either. Here's a 1.9.2 screenshot with Insert Filler Text done for page 1, but before Shift+Clicking on the linking triangle. There's no flow showing to page 2:

image.png.116622a21a0fcdb3fac5c467d495a7f2.png

After Shift+Click in 1.9.2 the links are created as the text flows into page 2/3:

image.png.2d82b067c0f07d612a545cd6afb55f5a.png

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
PC:
    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
iPad:  iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard 
Mac:  2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1

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2 hours ago, SRThomp said:

forgive my ignorance, I cannot do this because I cannot figure out how to show the more than one spread on my workspace. What am I missing please and thank you.

 

If I understand what you're saying, just zoom out.

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
PC:
    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
iPad:  iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard 
Mac:  2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1

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16 hours ago, walt.farrell said:

If I understand what you're saying, just zoom out.

i thought that would work as well but on the masters I do not have the same flow as the regular pages. It only allows me to have 1 spread at a time - regardless of zoom.  I am hoping i have setting wrong. Thanks for your patience.

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6 minutes ago, SRThomp said:

i thought that would work as well but on the masters I do not have the same flow as the regular pages. It only allows me to have 1 spread at a time - regardless of zoom.  I am hoping i have setting wrong. Thanks for your patience.

I think you may need to give us a screenshot of your Publisher window to help us understand what you mean.

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
PC:
    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
iPad:  iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard 
Mac:  2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1

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Thanks.

No, you wouldn't have the same flow on Master Pages. But my screenshots were of the document pages, and the topic is about flowing text on document pages. I guess I'm a bit confused why you're looking at the Master Page and wanting to view multiples that same way.

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
PC:
    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
iPad:  iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard 
Mac:  2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1

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On 6/26/2021 at 10:05 AM, walt.farrell said:

Recipe:

  1. Create a new document with 3 Facing pages and a Master.
  2. On the Master, draw a Text Frame on the left page, filling the page from border to border. Click the linking icon, and draw another identical one on the right page.
  3. Switch to page 1, right-click, and Insert Filler Text. (Sample document below was saved at this point.)
  4. Shift+Click on the linking icon to flow the Filler Text onto pages 2 and 3.
  5. In 1.9.2.1035 step 4 works. In 1.10.0.1098 Publisher crashes.

3-page-filler-text-1100.afpub

 

2dd99980-e7f6-4256-914d-e67a7912539e.dmp 7.44 MB · 3 downloads

the master was referenced in step 1 and 2. I cannot link boxes to the next pages because it will not show. I watched the video several times and tried to follow your instructions as well.

 

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1 hour ago, SRThomp said:

I cannot link boxes to the next pages because it will not show.

If you have a document configured to have Facing Pages, then you can have a Master Page that is a 2-page spread.

On that 2-page Master Page, draw a Text Frame on the left page, then click the linking triangle on the lower right edge of the frame, and then draw a Text Frame on the right page. The 2 Text Frames are now linked, and text will flow between them, or when the Master is applied to document pages.

Text will also flow from a right-hand page to the left-hand frame on the next document page.

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
PC:
    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
iPad:  iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard 
Mac:  2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1

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