Assistant Manager action does not match description in settings

[walt.farrell]

There's an Assistant Manager setting that should apply when you paint with a raster brush (Pixel Persona) on a vector object:

It says that the layer will be rasterized and painted on.

So, start with a simply document like this, with one vector layer:

Switch to the Pixel Persona, choose the Paint Brush Tool, and paint on that rectangle. The result is the following:

 

Either the Assistant action is wrong, or the description of the action in the Assistant Manager is wrong.

 

 

 

[NotMyFault]

Even if this is rated as bug, i personally prefer this behavior (adding a pixel layer instead of destructively rasterize vector layer).

Or to say it from another perspective: Please let the user choose which version he wants (rasterize layer vs. adding pixel layer).

[carl123]

@walt.farrell

Have you seen what it does to that rectangle if you change that Assistant Manager option to "Take no Action"?

Also, why is there an "Applying filters to vector layers" entry? What filters are they referring to in Designer?

 

I think the Assistant Manager has been drinking too much booze

[walt.farrell]

12 minutes ago, carl123 said:

Have you seen what it does to that rectangle if you change that Assistant Manager option to "Take no Action"?

For me, it does exactly the same thing. In other words, "Take No Action" seems meaningless.

 

13 minutes ago, carl123 said:

Also, why is there an "Applying filters to vector layers" entry? What filters are they referring to in Designer?

You can create Assets from Live Filters in photo, and use them in Designer. Perhaps that's what it refers to?

[carl123]

2 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

For me, it does exactly the same thing. In other words, "Take No Action" seems meaningless.

Exactly. 

 

2 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

You can create Assets from Live Filters in photo, and use them in Designer. Perhaps that's what it refers to?

Not sure, I don't think live filters as assets was ever a proposed thing, just something users found could work

[Komatös]

The assistant setting is a dazzler. No matter which selection variant is chosen; there will always be a pixel layer as sublayer.

One begins to wonder whether the left hand does not know what the right hand is doing. 😜

[Sean P]

On 6/25/2021 at 4:15 PM, walt.farrell said:

There's an Assistant Manager setting that should apply when you paint with a raster brush (Pixel Persona) on a vector object:

It says that the layer will be rasterized and painted on.

So, start with a simply document like this, with one vector layer:

Switch to the Pixel Persona, choose the Paint Brush Tool, and paint on that rectangle. The result is the following:

 

Either the Assistant action is wrong, or the description of the action in the Assistant Manager is wrong.

 

 

 

Hi Walt,

This is not a bug, but maybe a cross between a misunderstanding and a poor description on a label.

When the Assistant Manger refers to 'Other brushes' it refers to things such as Dodge, Burn, Smudge etc brushes (essentially anything that is not the Paint or Erase Brush Tools). Therefore this option won't make any kind of difference to the Paint Brush Tool.

It is the 'Painting with no layers selected' option that specifically relates to the Paint Brush Tool. I think the description could state 'Painting with no pixel layers selected' as that is more accurate as to what its designed to do. 

With that said feel free to create a thread in the improvement if you would like to see some more granularity with the Assistant Manager options.

[Sean P]

On 6/25/2021 at 4:36 PM, carl123 said:

Also, why is there an "Applying filters to vector layers" entry? What filters are they referring to in Designer?

Unfortunately this is a hangover from Photo and is something that has been reported to development regarding its confusing addition in Designer. In Photo it specifically relates to the non-live version of the filters - Live Filters don't have to rasterise an object to be applied.

[walt.farrell]

8 minutes ago, Sean P said:

It is the 'Painting with no layers selected' option that specifically relates to the Paint Brush Tool. I think the description could state 'Painting with no pixel layers selected' as that is more accurate as to what its designed to do. 

Thanks, Sean, but that doesn't explain it, either.

Whether that option is set to "Add a Pixel layer and paint" or to "Take no action", if you paint on a vector layer with a raster brush a child Pixel layer is created.

[Sean P]

11 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

Thanks, Sean, but that doesn't explain it, either.

Whether that option is set to "Add a Pixel layer and paint" or to "Take no action", if you paint on a vector layer with a raster brush a child Pixel layer is created.

My apologies I didn't have the Rectangle selected (although I was sure I had - but seemingly not). I'll pass it over to development to see what they say.

[MEB]

1 hour ago, walt.farrell said:

Thanks, Sean, but that doesn't explain it, either.

Whether that option is set to "Add a Pixel layer and paint" or to "Take no action", if you paint on a vector layer with a raster brush a child Pixel layer is created.

That option only applies when you have NO layer selected. If you have the vector layer selected then it does paint but that's not applicable to this setting. Notice the label of that dropdown: Painting with no layer selected.

[walt.farrell]

1 minute ago, MEB said:

That option only applies when you have NO layer selected. If you have the vector layer selected then it does paint but that's not applicable to this setting.

Of course. Thanks, and Sorry.