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Hallo liebe Community,

Auf langer Sicht möchte ich komplett auf open Source für die Arbeit umsteigen. Also Linux mit Libre Office, Libre CAD... Als Architekt möchte ich Auf Affinity jedoch auf keinen fall verzichten.

Daher meine frage: Ist eine LinuxVariante geplant? Was wäre nötig? ...

Linux ist in den Letzten Jahren mit seinen diversen Distriubutionen eine gute und teilweise bessere Alternative als Windows und MacOs.

Als privater Anwender wäre ich bereit etwas mehr als den aktuellen Preis für Affinity zu bezahlen, wenn dadurch Linux Standardmäßig unterstützt würde.

Lösungen wie es über auf eine Virtualle Maschine laufen zu lassen kommen nicht in Frage.

Als Endnutzer will ich es einfach haben zu installieren, updaten und starten.

Ich bin neugierig auf Ihre Antwort und bitte auf Deutsch.

Mit freundlcihen Grüßen

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2 hours ago, MrQ said:

Diese Platform gibt es bereits. Es ist Snap oder Flatpack. Daher sollte es jetzt auch eine Version für Linux geben.

This platform already exists. It is Snap or Flatpack. Therefore, there should now also be a version for Linux.

There is a massive thread regarding this that was recently locked. You will find your answers, or lack of answers there. 

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On 5/30/2021 at 9:29 PM, Stanant said:

Hallo liebe Community,

Auf langer Sicht möchte ich komplett auf open Source für die Arbeit umsteigen. Also Linux mit Libre Office, Libre CAD... Als Architekt möchte ich Auf Affinity jedoch auf keinen fall verzichten.

Daher meine frage: Ist eine LinuxVariante geplant? Was wäre nötig? ...

Linux ist in den Letzten Jahren mit seinen diversen Distriubutionen eine gute und teilweise bessere Alternative als Windows und MacOs.

Als privater Anwender wäre ich bereit etwas mehr als den aktuellen Preis für Affinity zu bezahlen, wenn dadurch Linux Standardmäßig unterstützt würde.

Lösungen wie es über auf eine Virtualle Maschine laufen zu lassen kommen nicht in Frage.

Als Endnutzer will ich es einfach haben zu installieren, updaten und starten.

Ich bin neugierig auf Ihre Antwort und bitte auf Deutsch.

Mit freundlcihen Grüßen

Grüß Gott! Leider ist keine Linux-Version eines der Affinity-Produkte geplant. Alternativ können Sie Inkscape, VivaDesigner und PhotoLine + Wine ausprobieren.

Da PhotoLine seinen Sitz in Deutschland hat, könnten Sie sie bitten, PhotoLine + Wine wie PhotoScape als Ubuntu Snap zu erstellen.

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On 6/16/2021 at 5:09 PM, wonderings said:

There is a massive thread regarding this that was recently locked. You will find your answers, or lack of answers there. 

That's not an answer. Serif ignores the massive desire of users for Linux versions of their programmes. So that this doesn't attract attention, you want to banish everything on the subject of Linux to one thread. That's why the users have to vote with their feet. Therefore, as many threads as possible on the subject should be placed in the forum so that the massive wish cannot be ignored.

 

Das ist ja keine Antwort. Serif ignoriert den massiven Wunsch der User nach Linuxversionen ihrer Programme. Damit das nicht auffällt, wollen Sie alles zum Thema Linux in einen Thread verbannen. Darum müssen die User mit den Füßen abstimmen. Daher sollten möglichst viele Threads zu dem Thema ins Forum, damit der massive Wunsch nicht zu ignorieren ist.

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1 hour ago, MrQ said:

Therefore, as many threads as possible on the subject should be placed in the forum so that the massive wish cannot be ignored.

Honestly, and speaking for myself only, I would stop coming here to help people who have genuine pressing problems with the software if the forum mostly consisted of We need an Android version of Photo, We want a Linux version of Designer...

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Affinity Designer 2.0.4 | Affinity Photo 2.0.4 | Affinity Publisher 2.0.4 | Beta versions as they appear.

I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that.

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On 6/26/2021 at 4:33 PM, MrQ said:

That's not an answer. Serif ignores the massive desire of users for Linux versions of their programmes. So that this doesn't attract attention, you want to banish everything on the subject of Linux to one thread. That's why the users have to vote with their feet. Therefore, as many threads as possible on the subject should be placed in the forum so that the massive wish cannot be ignored.

 

Das ist ja keine Antwort. Serif ignoriert den massiven Wunsch der User nach Linuxversionen ihrer Programme. Damit das nicht auffällt, wollen Sie alles zum Thema Linux in einen Thread verbannen. Darum müssen die User mit den Füßen abstimmen. Daher sollten möglichst viele Threads zu dem Thema ins Forum, damit der massive Wunsch nicht zu ignorieren ist.

It is their business and their choice. They have heard that some Linux users want their software. This is not the government working for the people, they do not owe the Linux community anything. There is no voting, no anything unless Serif decides they want to do it and they have made that pretty clear that they are not going to at the moment. Do you use the Affinity software on Windows or Mac?

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Dass Serif aktuell keine Linuxvariante vorsieht ist natürlich deren firmensache. Grundsätzlich gilt, dass Bessere ist des guten größter Feind. Serif ist besser als Adobe.. Und entweder Serif erkennt jetzt die Zeichen und erobert den Markt der Design-Software für Linuxnutzer, oder jemand anders wird diese Lücke erkennen.

Aus Wirtschaftlicher Sicht sollte Serif eine Umfrage starten und auch abfragen wieviel Kunden bereit sind für eine Linux-Version zu zahlen. Ich wäre bereit etwas mehr zu zahlen um es für Linux zu nutzen.

Serif ist ein Profitorientiertes Unternehmen und in einer Linux-Variante steckt wahrscheinlich sowohl Profit als auch eine mögliche Monopolstellung auf dem Linuxmarkt, denn Hand aufs Herz: Serif ist besser, intuitiver und kostentechnisch sinnvoller als Adobe.

Um es auf dem Punkt zu bringen, wenn Serif dass nicht macht, wird es früher oder später jemand anders tun.

Als Nutzer werde ich abwarten und hoffen.

 

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On 6/28/2021 at 12:04 PM, Stanant said:

Dass Serif aktuell keine Linuxvariante vorsieht ist natürlich deren firmensache. Grundsätzlich gilt, dass Bessere ist des guten größter Feind. Serif ist besser als Adobe.. Und entweder Serif erkennt jetzt die Zeichen und erobert den Markt der Design-Software für Linuxnutzer, oder jemand anders wird diese Lücke erkennen.

Aus Wirtschaftlicher Sicht sollte Serif eine Umfrage starten und auch abfragen wieviel Kunden bereit sind für eine Linux-Version zu zahlen. Ich wäre bereit etwas mehr zu zahlen um es für Linux zu nutzen.

Serif ist ein Profitorientiertes Unternehmen und in einer Linux-Variante steckt wahrscheinlich sowohl Profit als auch eine mögliche Monopolstellung auf dem Linuxmarkt, denn Hand aufs Herz: Serif ist besser, intuitiver und kostentechnisch sinnvoller als Adobe.

Um es auf dem Punkt zu bringen, wenn Serif dass nicht macht, wird es früher oder später jemand anders tun.

Als Nutzer werde ich abwarten und hoffen.

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The fact that Serif does not currently provide a Linux variant is of course a matter for the company. Basically, the best is the greatest enemy of the good. Serif is better than Adobe. And either Serif will now recognize the characters and enter the Linux user design software market, or someone else will see that loophole.

From an economic point of view, Serif should start a survey and ask how much customers are willing to pay for a Linux version. I would be willing to pay a little more to use it on Linux.

Serif is a profit-oriented company and a Linux variant is likely to contain both profit and a possible monopoly position on the Linux market, because hand on heart: Serif is better, more intuitive and makes more sense in terms of costs than Adobe.

To get to the point, if Serif doesn't do that, sooner or later someone else will.

As a user, I will wait and hope.

I would not say Serif is better than Adobe, there is plenty missing from the Affinity apps and this forum shows that pretty regularly when people try to switch but find things. Serif has made 3 great products that are feature rich and are very affordable especially for the more casual user or hobbyist. Adobe is not priced for these people, they are in the pro market and for people who make a living with their software. The monthly price tag for Adobe is not bad for this. The software is good, what you get for the price is full featured and has plenty of bonuses and most importantly it is a standard that the vast majority use.  If I was printing posters out of my home on the side I would use the Affinity software, but not for our print shop, I don't have the time to fight or do without features that I depend on. 

I am not sure if a poll is really needed to gage the interest in the Linux community. You could look at the estimated number of Linux users and then go from there finding data on how many of that small number would be people who would want to pay for this software.

I do agree if there is money to be made in the Linux community for this type of software someone will eventually do it. Adobe looked into it and opted not to venture down the Linux path. I am guessing they did not see a large enough user base for them. As I mentioned above this user base would be different though so there could be something more for Serif then Adobe for the casual user who'd does not want a monthly payment.

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Affinity is definitely worthwhile for the professional. Here it is used as secondary software. We may not do publishing as a business, but we definitely have tasks requiring professional publishing software. It is the same for photo editing and graphic drawing. just like we have professional level accounting software to handle the accounting even though we are not an accounting firm. As a result, paying to rent software with cumbersome access that we use regularly enough, but not daily all day, is not an affordable option with regards to money, time, and energy. And when we need it, we need the full professional level version of the software, not some dinky "lite" version.

As for Linux, we do as much on Linux as we can these days. More and more each day. We will not be upgrading to Windows 11 (the 10 version hampers productivity daily) or any Windows-based software anymore unless our favorites, such as Affinity, create a Linux version. And yes, we would definitely pay for it.

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I agree with others from Germany, Sweden, Slovakia, etc on the desire of Linux users to have a native compilation of Affinity on, say, Ubuntu 20.04 LTS.

For me, as a web designer for small businesses, there is always a client expectation of getting a logo and custom icons for a website - even when the client does not want to pay €200+ for a graphic designer to do this work !

Yes, I can make something acceptable with Inkscape.

But once I saw the intuitive layout of Affinity plus its many useful functions not present in Inkscape (e.g. displaying font changes on a text object as one scrolls through available fonts), I want to have Affinity.

I am not a commercial baby: I know that most media software users have (usually) Mac or else Windows machines. And I know that it is quite likely that Serif may have done a commercial deal with Apple or Microsoft to provide Affinity to MacOS and Windows users exclusively . . . That way they sell a lot of copies of the software in a single deal.

But Affinity on Linux will happen soon - with or without support from Serif.

It is inevitable.

 

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Ich stimme mit anderen aus Deutschland, Schweden, der Slowakei usw. über den Wunsch von Linux-Benutzern überein, eine native Zusammenstellung von Affinity auf beispielsweise Ubuntu 20.04 LTS zu haben.
 
Für mich als Webdesigner für kleine Unternehmen gibt es immer die Erwartung eines Kunden, ein Logo und benutzerdefinierte Symbole für eine Website zu erhalten - selbst wenn der Kunde nicht mehr als 200 € für einen Grafikdesigner zahlen möchte, um diese Arbeit zu erledigen!
 
Ja, ich kann mit Inkscape etwas akzeptables machen. Aber sobald ich das intuitive Layout von Affinity und seine vielen nützlichen Funktionen gesehen habe, die in Inkscape nicht vorhanden sind (z. B. die Anzeige von Schriftänderungen an einem Textobjekt beim Scrollen durch verfügbare Schriften), möchte ich Affinity haben.
 
Ich bin kein kommerzielles Baby: Ich weiß, dass die meisten Benutzer von Mediensoftware (normalerweise) Mac- oder Windows-Rechner haben. Und ich weiß, dass es sehr wahrscheinlich ist, dass Serif einen kommerziellen Deal mit Apple oder Microsoft abgeschlossen hat, um Affinity exklusiv für MacOS- und Windows-Benutzer bereitzustellen. . . Auf diese Weise verkaufen sie viele Kopien der Software in einem einzigen Geschäft.
 
Aber Affinity auf Linux wird bald passieren - mit oder ohne Unterstützung von Serif.
 
Es unvermeidlich ist.
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True, Linux will just grow. Stuff like WINE or Proton are getting better every update and can make the performance higher. Just look what happened recently, Roblox started working on Linux after WINE got updated, Roblox staff said that it will take a lot of time and money to port Roblox to Linux without creating performance issues, now look, WINE made it work and everything works well (Except right click, but there is a fix on that issue).

I know that Roblox is not anything even close to Affinity, but it just shows that Linux users will always find their way, and that the Linux will grow. By the thing that happened to Roblox, people switched to Linux because they finally can play and develop Roblox games.

It is a question of time when there will be any breakthrough in development of WINE or if there will be some new great compatibility tool.

#Affinity4Linux

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Especially in time like these and the new Windows 11, which so far does not attact many productivity oder gaming user, there is a rise in interest in lunux distros like Pop_OS and other well documented distros like Ubuntu.

Since Snap for Ubuntu exists, there are even more good reasons for Affinity to shine on Linux. Productivity, performance, security and even in some cases usability are all reasons to switch to Linux (or dual-boot).

The Windows App Store will support Android Apps soon, many once plattform exclusive Apps and services become more available via browsers and cross-plattform. Plattform independence should always be a huge bonus for software developers. So please Serif do not ignore this.

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It also must be said that Serif sacrifices a lot of income that way. Since a linux version simply would create a market and put them on the throne.
There are thousands which only stick with Windows due to the lack of an equivalent software for professional photography purposes on linux.


I always went for the GNU > commercial path as long I can get the jobs done. And often there are GNU applications working better than commercial ones. Before I abandoned Adobe completly and swapped to Affinity I went for inkscape instead of illustrator and scribus instead of indesign. So I am rather independent on the graphic design and layouting side since it works just fine. There are trillion of brilliant GNU programs for linux available. But as long GIMP can't compete with professional photo software and is targeted to hobby users there's no way to go with it.


Being a professional photographer with studio, I'm dependent on a quick workflow and specific features which so far only Affinity Photo, Photoshop and partly CorelPhoto can offer (not even to mention the superior experience that the whole affinity suite offers). I tried basically everything. And it is incredibly annoying to have mixed setups in the studio for specific purposes only because there's no way to swap over completely even after decades because of ONE necessary peice. And since Affinity simply is the best on the market (sorry adobe, but you threw it away) it would be more than pleasant if that peice could be affinity. I know at least 10 professional photographers which would swap to linux instantly once there's EITHER affinity OR photoshop available no matter the costs.. and shouldn't be the priority target the photographers?

Serif, if you wont make a native linux port, so please push coorperation for the wine developement, since it's even on #2 of the most desired software.

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+1 for the Affinity suite on Linux.

It's interesting, things seem to be rapidly shifting in favor of Linux right now, as Apple, Windows, etc., become increasingly problematic for privacy and security, plus pushing ever more unwanted things on their users (Edge/Bing, ads and tabloid "news", Amazon shopping in desktop searches, etc.). Meanwhile SteamOS moving to Linux, powering the world's most popular game platform, is forcing game designers to embrace Linux, while also creating a lot of new Linux interest/installs on high-end gaming machines. As Adobe continues to frustrate long-time users, more people have been looking for and moving to Adobe alternatives, and there's likely a growing number (of these people in particular) who are also frustrated with Apple/Windows.

In the creative-professional Linux world we have Blackmagic's Resolve for video production (now surpassing the competition in many areas). For music/audio production we have Bitwig, or if you prefer, Reaper (plus Resolve's Fairlight). But there's still one last major gap that Affinity would fill perfectly. I'm sure it would take a lot of work on their part, but I--for what it's worth--would certainly be willing to pay a premium to have Photo, Designer, and Publisher running natively on Linux.

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I agree.
Linux users desperately need better Design software that can be used for professional work.
A lot of linux users just can't do their day to day work on 100% on linux just because they need better design software in order to do their job.
Because of that, a lot of linux users just dual boot windows or have a separate computer running windows/MacOS and when asked,
they always say that if a better software existed, they would be happy paying for it if it meant they could do their work on their linux machine.
I personally would also love to see affinity software running on linux, and would definitely pay for it.

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I would definitely love to pay for Affinity on Linux too. I really love graphic design and Linux, but it gives me huge headaches, I have to use virtual machine to make Affinity work for me, this option works but the performance is not that awesome. I think adding Linux support would be a great step for Affinity because Linux is getting adopted quickly and if Affinity would come to Linux it could change it could increase the growth for both Affinity and Linux, just think about how many Linux news articles on tech sites would come out if Affinity added Linux support, Affinity would get more attention and Linux as well, Adobe users that are interested to switch would probably go to Linux and use Affinity. 

#Affinity4Linux

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I too would likie to see Affinity running on Linux, even if only via Wine

Currently, Affinity Photo is the second most requested peice of software being voted for wine compatability, and the number one graphics software being voted on as well


https://appdb.winehq.org/votestats.php

If a native Linux version is not going happen, could we at least see some support from someone on the dev side to get it running via Wine?

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Moin, ein ehemaliger Linux-Nutzer hier.

Warum sollte Serif Linux-Support einfügen? Sie würden vielleicht eine Kundenzahl im niedrigen einstelligem Prozentbereich dazugewinnen. Die meisten aus Affinity’s Zielgruppe sind nun mal bei Windows oder Mac zu finden. Und ich nehme mal mich als Beispiel:

Was bringt es mir, wenn Affinity auf Linux ist? Spätestens wenn ich meine Plotter oder Drucker bedienen will muss ich wieder auf Windows.

Affinity ist, auch wenn es immer bekannter wird, noch ein ziemlicher Geheimtipp, also ist es doch sinnvoller Geld in ein Programm zu stecken, welches von über 80% der Leute genutzt werden kann als Geld in eins zu stecken, welches vielleicht von 5% genutzt werden könnte, von denen aber so die Hälfte nur Open-Source-Sachen verwenden würde.

Linux ist einfach noch zu irrelevant, und ich glaube nicht dass sich das so schnell ändern wird

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On 6/26/2021 at 10:33 PM, MrQ said:

Therefore, as many threads as possible on the subject should be placed in the forum so that the massive wish cannot be ignored.

Looks like a premise for a permanent ban from the forum, more than increased pressure.

In any case, I agree people can vote with their feet. If Serif don't want to develop software for Linux, Linux users should boycott Serif and don't buy their Linux products!

Paolo

 

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On 6/26/2021 at 4:33 PM, MrQ said:

That's not an answer. Serif ignores the massive desire of users for Linux versions of their programmes. So that this doesn't attract attention, you want to banish everything on the subject of Linux to one thread. That's why the users have to vote with their feet. Therefore, as many threads as possible on the subject should be placed in the forum so that the massive wish cannot be ignored.

 

Das ist ja keine Antwort. Serif ignoriert den massiven Wunsch der User nach Linuxversionen ihrer Programme. Damit das nicht auffällt, wollen Sie alles zum Thema Linux in einen Thread verbannen. Darum müssen die User mit den Füßen abstimmen. Daher sollten möglichst viele Threads zu dem Thema ins Forum, damit der massive Wunsch nicht zu ignorieren ist.

huh? It is a duplicate thread, why would there need to be multiple threads of people asking for the same thing? They have a name for the same thing posted over and over again, I believe it is spam!

Not sure how Linux users vote with their feet if there is no option for them to buy for Linux. 

Seems a little self entitled to think you can bully your way to getting what you want. Just keep yelling and screaming and tantruming till they listen and do what you want! You are not owed anything from Serif, and the massive thread on the subject is active and known to Serif, they locked it for a while and then unlocked it so they have and are hearing the Linux community. Hard to believe but they may disagree with you and the profitability that may or may not come from porting their software to Linux.

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