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1.9.4.1076 (and earlier) – Shapes converted to text frames: missing context toolbar options


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Publisher v1.9.4.1076 & 1.9.3
Also affects Designer 1.9.4.2 & 1.9.3 and Photo
El Capitan, MacBookPro9,1
MacOS language English with Swiss German number formats, Affinity language English US

Shapes that have been converted to text frames are missing font selection options from the context toolbar.

 

MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2

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Just focusing on the first item you converted: Are you clicking on it with the Move Tool, or double-clicking?

On Windows, if I simply click on the Shape Path Text object, I still have the Move Tool, and so the Context Toolbar shows only the options for the object with a Move Tool. However, if I double-click the Move Tool switches to the Artistic Text Tool, and then the Context Toolbar changes to have all the text-related options (Font, etc.).

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
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1 hour ago, walt.farrell said:

Are you clicking on it with the Move Tool, or double-clicking?

The Move tool.
I should have mentioned that, thanks.
Double-clicking will then always show the whole shebang.
But the point (bug) is that selection of a text frame with the Move tool won't show all applicable attributes depending on how the text frame was created.

MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2

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31 minutes ago, loukash said:

But the point (bug) is that selection of a text frame with the Move tool won't show all applicable attributes depending on how the text frame was created.

But the attributes in the Context Toolbar are associated with the Tool, not the object.

Until you double-click on the converted object you're not using a Text Tool, and that may not be a bug. 

 

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
PC:
    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
iPad:  iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard 
Mac:  2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1

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10 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

that may not be a bug

It is a bug.
This part of the context toolbar is simply missing, and there's no rationale for that:

apu_converted_text_frame_toolbar_bug_missing_part.thumb.png.d5731fe82c1a84a2225410efef237d1b.png

MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2

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1 hour ago, loukash said:

It is a bug.

Still not convinced, because the contents of the Context Toolbar are largely dependent on the Tool you have selected, and in your screenshot you don't have the Text Frame Tool selected, as far as I can tell.

Also, you do not have a Text Frame active, as (I believe) you have a Shape text object, not a Frame text object. Here's what I get in the Layers panel, for example:
image.png.d2bfdd48a7cd539cde0f8083310b6cd2.png

So you're assuming you know that a Shape Text object should have on the Context Toolbar when the Move Tool is selected.

It may simply be different from what a Frame Text object has there. Or yes, maybe there is a bug. :)

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
PC:
    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
iPad:  iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard 
Mac:  2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1

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47 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

It may simply be different from what a Frame Text object has there.

As @loukash said, there is no rationale for that difference. What sensible reason can you think of for the particular missing controls to be deliberately absent?

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Walt, again:
The point is that stuff that is missing is literally just "cut off" arbitrarily from the toolbar.
There is no rationale why to hide the left part of the toolbar when a shape has been converted to text frame:

apu_converted_text_frame_toolbar_bug1.png.da7bd8d26be50edee131616eac970e0b.png

 

Why then display the missing parameters if the same shape has been converted to curves before converted to text frame?

apu_converted_text_frame_toolbar_bug2.png.474e97a1845f19074c304f8e99b8890e.png

 

Or why even display the parameters if you select two of the same shapes that won't display them if you'd select just one?

apu_converted_text_frame_toolbar_bug3.png.64414fda42505a301814a6486d0bf643.png

It doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
It's a bug.
Accept it. ;)

MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2

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  • 4 months later...

Not fixed in 1.10.3 yet.

MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2

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