tariq Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 In case it helps understand the problem better, here is a screen recording of Affinity Designer 1.9.3 on macOS 11.3.1 on a MacBook Pro 2015 15" i7 CPU with 16GB RAM. The duration is about 25 seconds. And it happens with Photo too. (Safari is open but with only one tab, a Google search results page). aff_time.mp4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tariq Posted May 13, 2021 Author Share Posted May 13, 2021 If Affinity were more publicly open about their bugs and prioritisation list that would be super helpful. It is 2021, the era of open source collaboration and transparency, ... and we can be better than Adobe! moi.cool and Patrick Connor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 The issue is understood, and there are lots of discussions about it in these forums. The cause is also known, and may require a fix from Apple for this issue that they have introduced. From the FAQ: Which eventually leads to: and to: Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tariq Posted May 13, 2021 Author Share Posted May 13, 2021 thanks. Why is a supposed native MacOS app using JIT compilation? Seems a little odd. Would love to know if there are valid reasons... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Patrick Connor Posted May 13, 2021 Staff Share Posted May 13, 2021 Without JIT compilation the browser window used in various places in the application (like the welcome screen and "My account" option) will crash on some macos versions, that is not our code and the JIT approach helps. Very frustrating indeed, for you and us. Quote Patrick Connor Serif Europe Ltd Latest V2 releases on each platform Help make our apps better by joining our beta program! "There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man. True nobility lies in being superior to your previous self." W. L. Sheldon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tariq Posted May 13, 2021 Author Share Posted May 13, 2021 Hey Patrick We can do without the welcome screen and the "my account" thing. It is bloat that no-one asked for Keep that content on your online website, not in the app. If you cut then out you would have no complaints, and a leaner app. It is rather depressing to hear in-app-adverts are the cause of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 27 minutes ago, tariq said: We can do without the welcome screen and the "my account" thing. It is bloat that no-one asked for The welcome screen provides useful notifications and (in the past) has provided access to free Affinity Store content. The "my account" function makes it easier to have the content purchased from the Affinity Store synchronized automatically to all your Affinity apps on all your computers, avoiding the need for manual downloads and installs. Many users have certainly asked for a function like that. It also is used now to provide free Affinity Store content. It does need some additions before it satisfies everyone, but those are likely in progress. Patrick Connor 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tariq Posted May 13, 2021 Author Share Posted May 13, 2021 Thanks again. From a technology perspective, having an embedded "web browser" seems like a bad idea, from both an efficiency perspective but also a security perspective. In my experience it was always lazy developers who opted for a 'embed web control' in a supposedly native app. If I was in charge of development I would demand it be ripped out and done properly. Affinity has developed a good reputation for modern, efficient native apps - in contrast to others who have 30 years of legacy code to deal with, or terrible apps which run on 'cross platform' technologies like Delphi. Please don't go down this route. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tariq Posted May 13, 2021 Author Share Posted May 13, 2021 1 hour ago, walt.farrell said: The welcome screen provides useful notifications and (in the past) has provided access to free Affinity Store content. The "my account" function makes it easier to have the content purchased from the Affinity Store synchronized automatically to all your Affinity apps on all your computers, avoiding the need for manual downloads and installs. Many users have certainly asked for a function like that. It also is used now to provide free Affinity Store content. It does need some additions before it satisfies everyone, but those are likely in progress. those function can be shoved into a separate app which is optional to use - and not burden added to every creative app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tariq Posted May 13, 2021 Author Share Posted May 13, 2021 Ive said it before, Affinity should be much much more open about how it develops its tools - it would benefit, and avoid massive bloopers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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