xeoncat Posted May 13, 2021 Share Posted May 13, 2021 Bug / Bad application design: Traditionally in most Windows applications, pressing the Alt key will activate the menu controls on top of the window. This is extremely undesirable when you have tools that depend on the Alt key for their functions. Any short key press of this key or color picking will override the current tool and put the focus on the menus. How to reproduce: 1) Select the Brush tool 2) Press or Hold Alt (and color pick or don't) 3) You can no longer do anything with the tool until you click once on the canvas or press Escape Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Chris B Posted May 13, 2021 Staff Share Posted May 13, 2021 Hey xeoncat, I cannot reproduce this—nor can a colleague. As soon as I release alt, I can click+drag to paint without a hiccup. What's your setup? Tablet, mouse etc? Quote How to format a bug report | Learning Resources | List of V2 FAQs | YouTube Tutorials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Komatös Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 I can't confirm it either. After releasing the ALT key, the brush tool works as it should. Chris B 1 Quote AMD Ryzen 7 5700X | INTEL Arc A770 LE 16 GB | 32 GB DDR4 3200MHz | Windows 11 Pro 23H2 (22631.3296) AMD A10-9600P | dGPU R7 M340 (2 GB) | 8 GB DDR4 2133 MHz | Windows 10 Home 22H2 (1945.3803) Affinity Suite V 2.4 & Beta 2.(latest) Better translations with: https://www.deepl.com/translator Interested in a robust (selfhosted) PDF Solution? Have a look at Stirling PDF Life is too short to have meaningless discussions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron P. Posted May 14, 2021 Share Posted May 14, 2021 Same here, I can't confirm this, with either tablet or mouse. Quote Affinity Photo 2.4..; Affinity Designer 2.4..; Affinity Publisher 2.4..; Affinity2 Beta versions. Affinity Photo,Designer 1.10.6.1605 Win10 Home Version:21H2, Build: 19044.1766: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5820K CPU @ 3.30GHz, 3301 Mhz, 6 Core(s), 12 Logical Processor(s);32GB Ram, Nvidia GTX 3070, 3-Internal HDD (1 Crucial MX5000 1TB, 1-Crucial MX5000 500GB, 1-WD 1 TB), 4 External HDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotMyFault Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 If the menu gets activated, just press and release the alt key again, and you are back and continue your workflow. This is by design from Microsoft, nothing to blame on Affinity Quote Mac mini M1 A2348 | Windows 10 - AMD Ryzen 9 5900x - 32 GB RAM - Nvidia GTX 1080 LG34WK950U-W, calibrated to DCI-P3 with LG Calibration Studio / Spider 5 iPad Air Gen 5 (2022) A2589 Special interest into procedural texture filter, edit alpha channel, RGB/16 and RGB/32 color formats, stacking, finding root causes for misbehaving files, finding creative solutions for unsolvable tasks, finding bugs in Apps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vczf Posted May 31, 2022 Share Posted May 31, 2022 I actually haven't encountered this issue in Photo or photo persona publisher with the color picker. However, the alt-menu mainly gets in my way while using the move tool in combination with the Alt key to "select behind" an object and then pressing space to pan the canvas, while the menu is still focused. I have found an AHK solution to disable Alt menu acceleration in Windows. Affinity is unfortunately special in its input handling. While this script seems to completely disable the Alt-menu behavior in other programs, it only inconsistently blocks it in Publisher. As a workaround... the menu acceleration can be avoided during use of the move tool (without a script) by making sure to press Ctrl-Alt instead of just Alt to "select behind." I wasn't able to replicate this issue with the brush's color picker, and this solution will not work for the brush because Ctrl-Alt is bound to changing brush size. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRld4bVFrpU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Engelbert Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 I get bitten by this problem all the time. It really kills the joy of painting with AP. Is Affinity working on any kind of solution? Quote This is by design from Microsoft, nothing to blame on Affinity I have to disagree. Affinity is to blame for limiting the colour picker to the Alt key with no way to rebind it. The menu acceleration feature in Windows is non-optional and there is no good way (that I know of) to turn it off or work around it. Since this is not a new feature (it has been around longer than mouse support), any failure of Affinity's tools to play nice with it is entirely Affinity's fault. Any way to correct this oversight would be fine imo. Rebind the colour picker to Ctrl or have an option to disable menu acceleration for Affinity's menus would do the trick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 10 hours ago, Engelbert said: I get bitten by this problem all the time. It really kills the joy of painting with AP. Is Affinity working on any kind of solution? Many of us here are Windows users, and very few have ever experienced the problem described here. I certainly haven't. Therefore, I suspect it really is a Microsoft problem, or perhaps you have some other software installed that is causing it. Or perhaps you have a keyboard issue, where when you try to hold the key down the connection is intermittent and Windows thinks you have pressed and released the key even though you think you have kept it pressed. PaulEC 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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