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After a bit of experimentation I came up with this in Publisher.
You will need to look at the paragraph formatting of the “Numbered 1” paragraph style – specifically “Tab Stops” and “Bullets and Numbering”.
Please don’t ask why I used certain settings as I’m not entirely sure why it works myself (there was a lot of experimentation as it’s not as easy as it first seems, to me at least).

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2 minutes ago, Lagarto said:

It just looks like one, but is not. The logic is that there must be room for making the alignment. If you have e.g. 5mm indent, then left, center and right alignment of the number works as expected.

Not in my case. I even tested it with a Tab Stopp Indent of 10 and more, and nothing happens. I wrote a bug report some minutes ago. Maybe we will have more clearness soon.

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To be honest, I don't need that verry often, and I can't remeber how I made this in InDesign. But this doesn't seem to be the most economical way to do such a simple thing. Especially if you don't do it every day, because you will always have to remember this steps.

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40 minutes ago, Lars Kindell said:

...But I must say that we are a long way from MS Office in the logic – and why not…

 

 

I think, it should work only by clicking on the "Tab Stop right alignment" button. Even in LibreOffice it works this way. Possibly it inserts some additional space for that automatically. Don't know that. But why shouldn't Publisher be able to do so to?

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1 hour ago, Lagarto said:

It just looks like one, but is not.

There is an ugly bug that involves left indent and tabs:

It could be related.

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55 minutes ago, Lagarto said:

There might be, but not related to the alignment of numbers. How do you middle align if there is no indent, as outdent off to left from the text frame is not supported? Word can do this without left indent because it does not use text frames and can "outdent" off the document left margin, when using center aligned numbers. 

The preferred workflows of course vary, but personally I like this method as it does not require adding of extra tabs before the number to get the right aligned numbers.

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If this should not be a bug, so it can't be intended to the best affords of usabilty. If it always needs additional space for right and center alignment, so the program should be developed to add it automatically. That should be possible and would prevent the users from a lot of confusion and frustration, it would spare valuable working time ("time is money") and make the work more economical.

Even the outdent to the left of the text frame should be possible somehow, I think, because it also works with the "Optical Alignement" (Character Panel). But if you like your accustomed workflow that much, nobody will forbid you to do it this way furthermore.

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4 minutes ago, Lagarto said:

I am just commenting here a feature that exists (not something that should exist) and try to explain how it works, and partly also why it work as it does. This is common behavior with InDesign and I think it works as designed. I may be wrong, but If is a bug, I wish that Affinity apps had more these kinds of bugs.

OK, but why? Any rational reasons? Any advantage? And do you think that Adobe is the eternal idol for everything around graphics and DTP? I don't think so.

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