Author, Copright info?

[Dr. Dave]

Coming from Illustrator and Photoshop, there is a "File Info" pop up I can add Doc title, Author, Copyright status, notice, URL, etc. Where can I find this for Designer and Photo?

[Pšenda]

https://affinity.help/photo/en-US.lproj/pages/Panels/metadataPanel.html

[Dr. Dave]

Thanks, so I'm assuming no such thing for Designer? I searched that help file for "meta" and "metadata" came back with no results.

[Pšenda]

You're welcome.

ADesigner is probably not exactly an application designed for creating and manipulating with metadata.

Edit: try menu "Edit in Photo...".

Edited March 30, 2021 by Pšenda

[v_kyr]

58 minutes ago, Dr. Dave said:

Thanks, so I'm assuming no such thing for Designer?

No metadata for that. - Though you can probably add some transparent (unvisable) text in order to add some non obvious author/copyright text data then.

[loukash]

10 hours ago, v_kyr said:

No metadata for that.

There's just no panel for that.
As @Pšenda already suggested, you can add metadata by editing the Designer (or Publisher) doc via Photo's Metadata panel. They will be saved with the document, and partially also exported.

I think I have posted something on this topic just recently, but can't find the thread right now.
But there have been many requests already:

11 hours ago, Pšenda said:

ADesigner is probably not exactly an application designed for creating and manipulating with metadata.

It is "exactly" the application for "creating and manipulating with metadata", much like any other application that creates documents.
Heck, even primitive built-in MacOS apps like TextEdit and Preview could create and partially manipulate metadata since years.

Not providing a Metadata panel in Designer is – if deliberate – nothing but an irrational and arbitrary whim "because reason".

[v_kyr]

2 minutes ago, loukash said:

There's just no panel for that.
As @Pšenda already suggested, you can add metadata by editing the Designer (or Publisher) doc via Photo's Metadata panel.

We already know all that, but were too lazy to go into details here!

[Pšenda]

3 hours ago, loukash said:

metadata by editing the Designer (or Publisher) doc via Photo's Metadata panel.

Publisher has a Fields panel for basic metadata.

 

3 hours ago, loukash said:

It is "exactly" the application for "creating and manipulating with metadata"

Do you mean like for Camera data, IPTC, GPS and other specific items? So for this type of metadata I would definitely see applications other than ADesigner.
I personally do not even consider basic items such as the author and title of a document as "metadata" (probably that is why they are called Fields in APublisher and not Metadata as in APhoto).
P.S. It is probably clear that in ADesigner there should be at least what is in APublisher.

[loukash]

1 hour ago, Pšenda said:

Publisher has a Fields panel for basic metadata.

Yep. Very basic…

1 hour ago, Pšenda said:

I personally do not even consider basic items such as the author and title of a document as "metadata"

slovnik.cz:

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metadata - popisná data dat. prvků

Všechno, čímž lze nějakým způsobem popsat obsah, ale co není jeho součástí, jsou metadata.

1 hour ago, Pšenda said:

probably that is why they are called Fields in APublisher

Yep, yet another UI design whim to confuse the user while attempting to cram all other "fields" in there that apparently didn't have place elsewhere, including Data Merge…

1 hour ago, Pšenda said:

Do you mean like for Camera data, IPTC, GPS and other specific items?

Essentially it's about XMP which is now a de iure standard and is finally at least partially supported by the Affinity document format.
affinity.help/photo/English.lproj/pages/Panels/metadataPanel.html
As far as I can tell, there is no technical limitation to add the Metadata panel to any of the other Affinity apps, or even extend the number of supported fields.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extensible_Metadata_Platform#Embedding

Let the user decide how they want to apply, read, edit and export their metadata from which ever Affinity app they use to whichever format they choose.

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So, if you have Photo & Designer, in Publisher you can at least freely switch to the Photo Persona to add any available metadata you need.
In Designer use File > Edit In Photo, then switch back.
They will be partially retained on PDF export (author, title, subject only), and fully on bitmap and EPS export.

To add all metadata an export format can bear, get e.g. the free Bridge from Schmadobe.
Some 3rd party apps like NeoFinder (and its Windows counterpart, forgot its name) support XMP sidecars for tagging Affinity apps:
cdfinder.de/guide/3/3.16/affinity_dam.html

Edited March 30, 2021 by loukash

[Pšenda]

28 minutes ago, loukash said:

Všechno, čímž lze nějakým způsobem popsat obsah, ale co není jeho součástí, jsou metadata.

Ano, to já ale nikde nerozporuju (nebo snad ano?)
Pouze píšu, že pro "mě" tyto základní informace (jak sám píšete very basic) nejsou data, která by si zasloužila nějakou zvláštní pozornost (to umí i word).
Naopak nástroj pro správu opravdových metadat (to co umí například ExifTool) nově podporovaných i v APhoto (konečně, psal jsem o tom již v roce 2017), patří podle mě jenom do této aplikace.
Takže díky Serifovi za doplnění.

[ChasUK]

Have just been trying the Photo Editor and haven't found where to add the IPTC range of data. Makes the Photo and it sounds like the rest of the editors rather unusable for any professional work. Sad as otherwise would be useful software.

[loukash]

1 minute ago, ChasUK said:

haven't found where to add the IPTC range of data

View > Studio > Metadata panel > popup menu

[loukash]

Oh, and as usual, if everything else fails, as the very last resort before smashing one's computer to pieces, it is being recommended by some to consult the manual. Go figure…

[ChasUK]

Thanks loukash,

Yes, have looked at the Metadata panel popup menue. It only shows a limited amount of the metadata not all of it. It doesn't allow any changes. It doesn't give access to the IPTC which is often crucial for use. Need to be able to edit, add to IPTC as part of Metadata. Wont of course be added within a raw file but into any other secondary format such as TIFF or JPG.

[loukash]

6 minutes ago, ChasUK said:

It only shows a limited amount of the metadata not all of it.

Fair enough, It should show more.

6 minutes ago, ChasUK said:

It doesn't allow any changes.

Changes to what?

7 minutes ago, ChasUK said:

It doesn't give access to the IPTC which is often crucial for use.

Of course it does. Fill in the fields and make sure that Embed Metadata is enabled in your Export preset.
If the option is not present, then the export format doesn't support metadata.
Doesn't work well on PDF files, unfortunately.

9 minutes ago, ChasUK said:

Need to be able to edit, add to IPTC as part of Metadata.

If you want excessive metadata control, install e.g. Adobe Bridge. The last time I checked – a year or two ago – it was still free as in beer.
Or on Mac, support independent developers and get GraphicConverter.

[ChasUK]

Even going through all the menues it only shows a bit of the IPTC. OK maybe more going into the IPTC raw data can get more but virtually unusable. The sort of times want this is have a photo with GPS imbeded in it so want to find location it was taken. Write some notes about the photo, person, location etc. Maybe some time latter writting an article want to use some photos in it and quick check which ones are right so want a quick easy IPTC and maybe Metadata to look at. Can use other software of course, but has wondered if could use Affinity to do everything. Just too fiddly and some just not (yet) possible.

[loukash]

4 minutes ago, ChasUK said:

a photo with GPS imbeded in it so want to find location it was taken

For some arbitrary reason "because reason", the Location panel is available in the Develop persona only. But you should be able to edit locations nonetheless, simply disable all other develop functions before you click Apply.

5 minutes ago, ChasUK said:

has wondered if could use Affinity to do everything

That can be answered with a single word:

No.

[Pšenda]

19 minutes ago, ChasUK said:

The sort of times want this is have a photo with GPS imbeded in it so want to find location it was taken.

P.S. Although it has improved a lot, it is unfortunately still quite far from a full-fledged tool such as ExifTool.

Edited April 12, 2021 by Pšenda