RGB Slider only goes up to 100 → SOLVED, but WHY?

[sbe]

I’m curious, why goes the RGB-Slider in the Color Studio-Panel up to 100 and not 256 ? It is rather dangerous if you want to enter defined RGB values.

 

Same with the Hex-Slider. I’m not able to input e.g. FFFFFF:

As I was writing this, I figured it out. It's because of the Percentage setting… 

But if I change it to 8-Bit, now my CMYK slider has 256 adjustment levels 🙈

Interesting, but completely useless. Can't you set it differently depending on the color space?

I hope this is a bug!

 

btw. why do you need 2 different dialog-boxes for RGB and HEX? why not combine the RGB slider dialog with the HEX Values, because it's exactly the same it’s only a different numeral system

 

[firstdefence]

I'd say the red hex value is a bug, although it does accept the value, it's just a bit disconcerting to see the red characters. There was a similar bug in an earlier version of Affinity (1.8.x)  so it's likely this has been reintroduced accidentally 🤔

 

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10 hours ago, sbe said:

I’m curious, why goes the RGB-Slider in the Color Studio-Panel up to 100 and not 256 ?

With RGB or Greyscale selected in the Color panel, click on the 4 line "hamburger" menu icon at the top right of the panel. In the menu that opens, you should see an option to display values as 8 bit, 16 bit, or Percentage. With CMYK selected you should see 8 bit & Percentage options.

[sbe]

Curious that it's working for all of you. I just double checked, restarted macOS and still can't define 8-bit or percent permanently different. The check remains the same when I switch. I'm using 1.9.1 (no beta).

The check keeps remaining in the same position for all color spaces. I always have to switch manually:

 

 

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1 hour ago, sbe said:

The check remains the same when I switch.

How exactly are you switching? For CMYK, what happens if you click on "8 bits" (one item above "Percentage")? Likewise, what happens for RGB if you click on "8 bit" or "16 bit"?

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I don't think anything needs to be reset. It is just that the Percentage setting is not an on/off toggle, so it does not matter how many times it is clicked -- that just keeps selecting it. So instead, @sbe needs to click on one of the other choices in that group (like 8 bit) to change the setting.

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6 minutes ago, Lagarto said:

The point is that when the settings work correctly they stay what they have been set, and independently from each other. That is, setting to values to percentage for CMYK would not force the same setting for RGB and grayscale.

That too, but it is still necessary to click on something other than Percentage to set it correctly. That is why I asked exactly how this was being set.

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[sbe]

yeah, really confusing! I've already accepted that it's a bug, but if it works for you, then hopefully it's because of my settings. I just changed to English, unfortunately it was not because of that.

Attached is a video, maybe I'm doing something wrong:

 

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53 minutes ago, Lagarto said:

The point is that when the settings work correctly they stay what they have been set, and independently from each other.

Well, this is weird! On my Mac I just noticed that they are not set independently ... to the point that if I set RGB to 16 bit, CMYK displays 16 bit values as well, even though there is no 16 bit item in the menu.

EDIT: the lock has no effect on this. Maybe this is a Mac vs. Windows thing?

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1 minute ago, Lagarto said:

This is how it works for me now once again after I reset all settings (this is in Publisher 1.9.1 macOS M1 version on Big Sur 11.2.3):

What happens if you switch to RGB, set it to 16 bit, & then switch to CMYK?

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[sbe]

haha, oh nooo 🙈 but good to know! Maybe Affinity already has the bug on its mind and it disappeared in the new version. 

So like in your video the behavior would be good. But wouldn't it be even better if that CMYK sliders automatically appear when you double-click a CMYK color swatch:

7 hours ago, Lagarto said:

Yes, the feature is broken somehow. This is how it works for me now once again after I reset all settings (this is in Publisher 1.9.1 macOS M1 version on Big Sur 11.2.3):

 

I won't touch the lock ever again!

 

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[sbe]

Not really. As you can see, if you change the color of a swatch, the swatch name and the popup-value remains the same… You cannot 100% sure know, which color-system is really behind that specific color swatch: 

Of course we all know, it is not possible such a saturated green in CMYK  

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[sbe]

yes, but that simply doesn't work in everyday work. Especially not when you work with colleagues and exchange documents, you never know what the person has done with the swatches ;) If you have to rely on the correct color values for corporate branding, then you can't seriously work with the color module. 

→ Some behaviors are definitely buggy or at least not comprehensible.

I summarzied all the problems in one video:

1. The Swatches Panel: The appearance of the color swatch as well as the popup if you hover has no information at all about what kind of color value it represents ⚠️ 

→ If you change or rename the colour, at least the Popup should show the correct colour model and the saved colour values

2. The Colour Chooser: The RGB value on the right side is correct✅ The large RGB main slider, however, shows the values in percentage ⛔

3. TheColour Fill Slider: 8-bit, everything correct as it should be ✅. 

4. The Colour Panel: CMYK 0 / 242 / 253 / 0 → 8-bit ⛔

5. The Swatches Colour Slider: CMYK 0 / 242 / 253 / 0 (8-bit⛔) suddenly switching to 0 / 255 / 255 / 0 → ⛔⛔

 

So how can I actually be sure whether the color swatch is created in RGB or in CMYK?

Even though the values may be correct internally in Publisher, you still get very insecure and don't know if you haven't accidentally misadjusted the values. You simply don't have the chance to reliably know what the saved color value is.

I hate the comparison with Indesign. But their colour module is absolutely bulletproof!

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10 hours ago, Lagarto said:

Isn't it release of the lock? (You can just release and then again close it to check the actual color values and mode.) But as mentioned personally I do not want that behavior because if locking is not done, switching color modes of controls automatically makes reassignments if there are any active selections; when working with object graphics I want to have strict control of colors via swatch assignments..., things that Affinity apps make so difficult and most of the other graphic design apps natural and easy... 

yes, releasing the lock is a workaround. But just like you say, it's very risky and I don't want to unlock that permanently.