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v1024 Picture Frame :: Properties and Defaults


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• If an empty picture frame gets created via tool the Fill doesn’t appear though it is saved in the defaults. Clicking "Revert Defaults" makes the fill appear, an immediately created new frame doesn't have the fill again.

• If a picture frame gets created via "Convert ..." then the default fill is applied but the custom scale/anchor defaults are ignored and the factory setting gets applied instead. Changing the settings + immediately creating a new frame via convert doesn't apply the custom scale/anchor defaults again.

• The option "Size Picture Frame to Content"  1490452715_SizePictureFrametoContentbutton.jpg.21af94508dc7f7258898bfabf1c60ac9.jpg  shows its active (highlighted/darkened) stage only while clicking. Even if a frame fits to the resource this button never indicates it. <– Is this in purpose? / Is there a way to make it show its true stage permanently?

 

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9 hours ago, thomaso said:

If an empty picture frame gets created via tool the Fill doesn’t appear though it is saved in the defaults. Clicking "Revert Defaults" makes the fill appear, an immediately created new frame doesn't have the fill again.

It's not clear from the video whether you had done anything in the document before this step. Did File > New immediately precede drawing that first Picture Frame, or had you done other work?

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In the video above it wasn't a virgin .afpub.

But even then I get the issues. Odd: whereas the video shows my custom default fill (10% black), in a brand new .afpub the fill isn't my custom but the factory default color (50% gray, RGB). Nevertheless, in both cases the fill isn't applied on frame creation but requires additionally pressed "Revert Defaults". Also odd: Different to the video now in both .afpubs a frame created via "Convert…" doesn't show the fill. So, at least to me in macOS, the custom saved defaults (via sync > save) behave as if being confused/corrupted.

• Do you get a a fill, respectively a custom fill applied on picture frame creation / in either ways of creation?
• Do you get the custom scale/anchor property defaults used if the frame is created via "Convert"?
• Do you get the "Size Picture Frame to Content" icon indicating the state of a selected object correctly?

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3 minutes ago, thomaso said:

So, at least to me in macOS, the custom saved defaults (via sync > save) behave as if being confused/corrupted.

From the Help File...

"Object defaults are stored separately for stroke and fill attributes, artistic text attributes, table format and frame text attributes. The stroke attribute is the only object default that is applied to new picture frames."

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1 hour ago, Gabe said:

"Size Picture Frame to Content" is just a toggle. You can't have it on/off all the time. 

Thanks for logging 1 & 2.  – Do you mean the button toggle is meant to work this current way by design/concept? Currently it can have two permanent states: a) grayed-out,  b) off.

According the UI design I would expect that it auto-toggles to its state c.) on , whenever an item gets selected which fulfills this property. Compare the buttons Bold / Italic / Underline in the context toolbar which always get updated according to a current text selection.

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49 minutes ago, thomaso said:

Do you mean the button toggle is meant to work this current way by design/concept? Currently it can have two permanent states: a) grayed-out,  b) off.

I think that "toggle" may not be the word that @Gabe meant. I think it's an immediate action, not an option. You click it, and it changes the size, and then it's done. (Much like the bottom 5 entries in Text > Capitalization are actions that change the text once, rather than options like the first 3 entries in that list.)

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Okay, got it, thank you.
I had already noticed that it works this way – I was rather wondering whether this behavior was intent. The look of this button, compared to other UI buttons to set a certain property of selected objects, made me expect it would behave different, which by the way could be useful for this, too.

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