Crop Tool: dynamic handles needed

[Fritz_H]

Hi,

The crop-tool offers 8 handles:



But if you zoom into the image because you want to align the crop to an image-element, it may happen that the handles are off-screen:

Suggestion:
* either make the position of the handles "dynamic" so that every visible crop-border offers one visible handle
or
* make the whole border act as a handle.

currently grabbing the border just moves the whole frame, which is nice but useless since moving can already be easily accomplished by grabbing anywhere inside the crop-frame.

[Pšenda]

I used to suggest this.

This would be useful for all handles (object size, position) in general, not just for the Crop tool.

[Fritz_H]

9 hours ago, Pšenda said:

I used to suggest this.

... back in 2018 - and it´s still not implemented.
What is Serif waiting for? Are they developing some more useless special stuf like astrophotography-filters?

[loukash]

17 hours ago, Fritz_H said:

make the position of the handles "dynamic" so that every visible crop-border offers one visible handle

15 hours ago, Pšenda said:

This would be useful for all handles (object size, position) in general, not just for the Crop tool.

+1

Meanwhile, until it gets implemented which may apparently take, erm… a while, we can use guides to mark the desired position, zoom out until we see a handle, and then snap to the guide.

[loukash]

1 minute ago, loukash said:

use guides

Hm…
Just noticed an odd bug:
When you try to place a guide by dragging it from the vertical ruler with the Crop tool active, this action disables and enables guides.
Dragging from the horizontal ruler does nothing.
Duh.
So the "ugly workaround" is:

Set your crop guides with the Move tool first, before enabling the Crop tool.
Oh well…

[drks]

I am also waiting for this to be addressed. Half the time there are no visible crop handles on the screen when I am zoomed in enough to get pixel perfect cropping. 

[drks]

More than a year later and I'm still waiting for this to be addressed...

[mrqasq]

Can't you just use keyboard arrow keys to move ? Normal press is 1px into desired direction, Shift is x10

[PaulEC]

After you've zoomed in, just drag out a crop box where you want it!

[GarryP]

6 minutes ago, PaulEC said:

After you've zoomed in, just drag out a crop box where you want it!

Unfortunately that wont work if the crop area is larger than the visible on-screen area.

The request, as I read it, is to be able to create a rough crop area and then zoom in to make sure the crop is ‘pixel-perfect’, and this cannot be done when the crop handles are not visible (because they are only in set places around the crop area).

As Pšenda has mentioned above, this would also be useful in ‘non-crop situations’.

[drks]

oops double post

Edited September 15, 2022 by drks
double post

[drks]

As GarryP says, "Just drag out a crop box where you want it" doesn't solve the problem if you need to adjust the crop box to be pixel perfect and also large enough to extend off screen when zoomed in far enough to tell if it's aligned to the pixel.  Neither does using the keyboard.

I've explained the issue in a similar post here with images that make clear why you can't do what was suggested.

 

[PaulEC]

Sorry guys, I think I understand what you're trying to do now! I was assuming that you just needed to align one side accurately, then you could drag the others  once you zoom out - no use if you need to see the whole thing!

[Old Bruce]

For pixel perfect work have Snap to guides turned on as well as Force pixel alignment. draw and adjust the Guides and then crop.

[mrqasq]

I also now understand, that using keyboard just moves whole crop area to left or right, and you want to move just one side, without touching the rest, correct?