flyaholic Posted March 5, 2021 Posted March 5, 2021 Hello! I am working with Affinity Publisher 1.9 on Mac. My problem: When I place images (previously edited in Affinity Photo) in the image frames of Publisher, they appear dull on the screen, as if in a haze! I can't figure out how to change this. It can't be that the images appear so flat in print as well Does anyone have any ideas on how I can get a clear display?D-EVHH in Photo.pdf D-EVHH_in_Publisher.pdf Quote
Ray S. Posted March 6, 2021 Posted March 6, 2021 Have you checked which color-profiles the apps have used? To me it looks like the Photo-Version of your file is in an RGB-profile and the Publisher-Version use a CMYK-profile. Quote
flyaholic Posted March 6, 2021 Author Posted March 6, 2021 Hi Ray. Thanks for your quick reply. But I think that this is not the problem. I open the RGB JEPG from my Canon Ixus in Affinity Photo, convert it from RGB to CMYK, change it to 300 dpi, maybe make some enhancements and export it as a pdf. Then I place it in Affinity Publisher. Now something strange happens! For about 2 seconds the image stays juicy and crisp and suddenly it gets this gray haze. Attached is a screenshot of an image before and after placing it in Publisher. I am very new to Publisher. Maybe I have something wrong in the preferences. I have never experienced this "grayout" with QuarkXpress, from which I would like to switch to Publisher. Sunny Greetings from Frankfurt/Germany Mike Quote
Old Bruce Posted March 6, 2021 Posted March 6, 2021 This looks like you have a lower opacity on the picture or the Picture Frame (and therefore the picture inside it) Check your layers panel. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.6.0 | Affinity Photo 2.6.0 | Affinity Publisher 2.6.0 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that.
flyaholic Posted March 6, 2021 Author Posted March 6, 2021 Hey Old Bruce! It doesn't seem to be either. As you can see, the layers are set to 100% opacity. The phenomenon - which I don't understand - is that when you open the document, the images appear clear and juicy, but after a few seconds they turn gray and stay that way! See the attached screenshot! Mike Quote
firstdefence Posted March 6, 2021 Posted March 6, 2021 upload the afpub file for us to look at and/or the afphoto file so we can try opening that in Affinity Publisher. You could also make a duplicate of the documents and cut them down by removing pages and upload that. Quote iMac 27" 2019 Sequoia 15.0 (24A335), iMac 27" Affinity Designer, Photo & Publisher V1 & V2, Adobe, Inkscape, Vectorstyler, Blender, C4D, Sketchup + more... XP-Pen Artist-22E, - iPad Pro 12.9 (Please refrain from licking the screen while using this forum) Affinity Help - Affinity Desktop Tutorials - Feedback - FAQ - most asked questions
Old Bruce Posted March 6, 2021 Posted March 6, 2021 It is obvious there is a problem but I think we would need to see one of the actual pictures and a copy of the publisher document. Could you make a copy of the document and remove everything except one page with one image and then post that image file and the one page Publisher file. The way I do this is to make a new folder and place the Publisher and Photo documents in there and then zip compress the folder. Use the Finder's Compress command. An Aside: I think the few seconds delay in this display problem may be down to Publisher generating all the image data for all the pictures Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.6.0 | Affinity Photo 2.6.0 | Affinity Publisher 2.6.0 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that.
flyaholic Posted March 6, 2021 Author Posted March 6, 2021 7 minutes ago, firstdefence said: upload the afpub file for us to look at and/or the afphoto file so we can try opening that in Affinity Publisher. You could also make a duplicate of the documents and cut them down by removing pages and upload that. Hello, here are 4 typical pages, grayed out.HazePictures.afpub HazePictures.afpub.zip Quote
flyaholic Posted March 6, 2021 Author Posted March 6, 2021 24 minutes ago, firstdefence said: upload the afpub file for us to look at and/or the afphoto file so we can try opening that in Affinity Publisher. You could also make a duplicate of the documents and cut them down by removing pages and upload that. Hello, here are 2 Pages and the original Pictures exported out of Affinity Photo Example.zip Quote
Old Bruce Posted March 6, 2021 Posted March 6, 2021 I think this has to do with your choice of PDF export preset from Photo. Aside: Whenever I can I prefer to use TIFFs for photo images, and whenever I can I prefer to not use PDFs for anything except the final file to be sent to the printer (home or commercial). Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.6.0 | Affinity Photo 2.6.0 | Affinity Publisher 2.6.0 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that.
firstdefence Posted March 6, 2021 Posted March 6, 2021 When I open the Borkum.pdf in Preview it looks washed out briefly, then Preview applies a colour profile and the colours look better but when I open in PDF Expert it doesn't apply a profile and the image looks washed out. Quote iMac 27" 2019 Sequoia 15.0 (24A335), iMac 27" Affinity Designer, Photo & Publisher V1 & V2, Adobe, Inkscape, Vectorstyler, Blender, C4D, Sketchup + more... XP-Pen Artist-22E, - iPad Pro 12.9 (Please refrain from licking the screen while using this forum) Affinity Help - Affinity Desktop Tutorials - Feedback - FAQ - most asked questions
flyaholic Posted March 6, 2021 Author Posted March 6, 2021 Hello, I found something that solves the problem, but without understanding why, anyway, it works. 😃 If I click twice on the placed pdf. and choose the option "Interpret" in "PDF passthrough", the image appears clear without any gray haze. (upper image) If I click the placed pdf. twice and choose "Passthrough" option in "PDF Passthrough", then the image appears with gray haze. (bottom image) I hope this will solve my problem and it will work in print. Or maybe it's just a "make shift" which touches up messy formatted images? Many Thanks for your help! 👍👍👍 firstdefence and Old Bruce 2 Quote
Old Bruce Posted March 6, 2021 Posted March 6, 2021 Thanks for telling us your solution. To avoid this sort of thing I recommend using TIFFs (or JPEGs or PNGs) for photos, and reserve the PDF for vector art. Seeing as you have Photo (at least I am assuming that due to the PDFs being generated by Photo in the Get Info Window on my Mac.) it should be a relative piece of cake. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.6 Affinity Designer 2.6.0 | Affinity Photo 2.6.0 | Affinity Publisher 2.6.0 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that.
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