Two strange behaviors after installing v 1.9

[Tirpitz]

Hello, new here, just want to report two "bugs" or at least strange behaviors of AP after installing v1.9:

- now when I click on any of the Adjustments tab in the low right part of the interface, I'm not immediately prompted with the related pop up in which I can actually regulate the adjustement, but I'm presented with a "Default" thumbnail that I have to click again in order to make the pop appear. This is incredibly annoying as it either force me to go through two clicks when before one was enough or switch to the Layers tab and then click on the Adjustment icon which, strangely enough, then will let me choose any Adjustment without then prompting me with a "Default" miniature.

- the thumbnails of all my custom LUTs have disappeared and now I only have a list. Is there a limit of LUTs above which AP switched from thumbnails previews to a simple list?

 

Neither of the two issues have been solved in v1.9.1, could a fresh reainstall of everything rather than installing over v1.8.5 maybe sort the issues or is it really like now the program is supposed to behave?

[lepr]

Welcome to the Affinity forums.

Your two issues are deliberate changes by the developers. The developers seldom make changes be optional for the user, sadly.

[walt.farrell]

27 minutes ago, Tirpitz said:

Neither of the two issues have been solved in v1.9.1, could a fresh reainstall of everything rather than installing over v1.8.5 maybe sort the issues or is it really like now the program is supposed to behave?

Both are how the system is supposed to behave, now, and both changes were made to resolve issues that some users were having.

[Tirpitz]

I understand, but especially point one doesn't seem so convenient to me, it basically doubles the steps you need to do any adjustment, and at least me, 90% of the times I was using the tabs instead of the Adjustment menu on the Layer tab. I find it pretty aggravating in my workflow now, what was exctly the issue of having directly the regulation tab open with just one click? I struggle to figure it out honestly..

 

Suggestion: don't know if it would be technically possible, but I'd least include in a future realease an option to turn this "feature" off for who prefers the 1.8.5 behavior.

Edited February 26, 2021 by Tirpitz

[walt.farrell]

17 minutes ago, Tirpitz said:

what was exctly the issue of having directly the regulation tab open with just one click? I struggle to figure it out honestly..

1. It was apparently not intended that clicking on a category would automatically apply the default adjustment. All it was supposed to do was open the category you clicked on.

2. If you had an adjustment layer active and adjusted and selected in the Layers panel, and you clicked the same category again, it overlayed the existing adjustment with the new one. This loss of data was probably the biggest reason for the fix that was made.

[Tirpitz]

Thank you for the reply,

point 2 is valid, as I've noticed such behavior and had to pay attention to it, point 1 actually is only on paper, as the "Default" adjustment is not doing anything in reality no? Is just the starting point from the current situation.

If I had to choose between paying some more attention on which layer I'm adjusting or doubling the clicks for almost anything I want to do, I'd chose the first all the time, but maybe it's just me

Having said that, as mentioned if you instead use the Adjustments menu in the Layers tab, you are prompted immediately with the Default adjustment tab anyway, so now we have a less consistent approach between the two, at least in my mind.

Having at least the option to pick you poison would be good, but don't know how difficult to implement honestly.

 

[R C-R]

3 hours ago, Tirpitz said:

point 1 actually is only on paper, as the "Default" adjustment is not doing anything in reality no?

That is not true for every adjustment type. For example the Recolor, Black & White, Posterize, Threshold, & Gradient Map default presets each apply considerable changes.

[Tirpitz]

Yes, but let's take for example the B&W Adjustment: of course if I hit it I'm expecting to see my pic turned B&W somehow and then start to modify it from there.

Now I have to hit the B&W Adjustment, nothing happens, and to actually do something I have to hit the Default tab, which brings me exacly where I would have been in the case above, just having required a click more.

I can see an added value only if you have your presets for every Adjustment that you want to apply instead of the Default one, but if that's the case, a more proper way to achieve that would have been to keep the "automatic" Default application with the regulation tab immediately open AND displaying also the thumbnail with the presets, so giving the possibility to override the Default setting by clicking it (maybe was already like that, don't recall honestly).

That way you would accomodate both needs in my opinion, without ending multiplying the clicks for whomever is happy enough to start its own edits from the Default level.

Of course you can get used to anything, I'm just pointing out that, at least for me, this is not for the better.

[R C-R]

7 minutes ago, Tirpitz said:

I can see an added value only if you have your presets for every Adjustment that you want to apply instead of the Default one, but if that's the case, a more proper way to achieve that would have been to keep the "automatic" Default application with the regulation tab immediately open...

For the adjustments that have a default that changes the object they are applied to, it is (at least to me) annoying that I have to see that change before I can change anything, be it to a custom preset I have saved or a one-off adjustment.

In fact, because the Adjustments studio panel is so large, I rarely have it open, instead using the popup on the Layers panel for everything except recalling saved presets.

[h_d]

2 minutes ago, R C-R said:

using the popup on the Layers panel for everything except recalling saved presets.

+1