VectorCat Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 I'm building a new document, and have dragged a few items in to serve as reference. I have 3 items, but only one showed up in Layers studio. Until I clicked on the items in the document. THEN their layers appeared in the Layers studio. To me this seems far more bug than feature. 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 A sample document demonstrating that would be useful. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC:    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090   Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad:  iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectorCat Posted February 9, 2021 Author Share Posted February 9, 2021 I would, alas, proprietary content. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 Recreatable with test data? Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC:    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090   Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad:  iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 1 hour ago, VectorCat said: I'm building a new document, and have dragged a few items in to serve as reference. I have 3 items, but only one showed up in Layers studio.  What sort of items? Did you drag and drop from the OS (file explorer)? Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.4 Affinity Designer 2.4.1 | Affinity Photo 2.4.1 | Affinity Publisher 2.4.1 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectorCat Posted February 9, 2021 Author Share Posted February 9, 2021 So, in my case it is the MacOS Finder. One rtf document created in Text Edit and 2 PDFs. They appeared in the document without issue, let me move, resize, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectorCat Posted February 9, 2021 Author Share Posted February 9, 2021 5 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: Recreatable with test data? It's entirely possible. I'm just really passing on a thing I witnessed, as with the issue of text re-sizing when several bits of text are grouped. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 10 minutes ago, VectorCat said: It's entirely possible. I'm just really passing on a thing I witnessed, as with the issue of text re-sizing when several bits of text are grouped. 😉 A quick test here (using PDF and RTF) doesn't show the problem you describe. If at some later date you can recreate it with none private/proprietary documents please let us know again. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.4 Affinity Designer 2.4.1 | Affinity Photo 2.4.1 | Affinity Publisher 2.4.1 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectorCat Posted February 9, 2021 Author Share Posted February 9, 2021 This just happened moments ago. Here is a screen grab of an example of an item which is on the paste board but not reflected in the Layers Studio. It is the 2pt black page border - indicated with fat red circles which should appear in the layers studio as a "Rectangle." The other "rectangles" shown are for items off the paste board. EDIT: it may be listed as "Shape Text" which is bizzare because I made it with the Rectangle tool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021  13 minutes ago, VectorCat said: It is the 2pt black page border - indicated with fat red circles which should appear in the layers studio as a "Rectangle." And this is still happening? Very weird indeed. 2 hours ago, VectorCat said: Until I clicked on the items in the document. THEN their layers appeared in the Layers studio. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.4 Affinity Designer 2.4.1 | Affinity Photo 2.4.1 | Affinity Publisher 2.4.1 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectorCat Posted February 9, 2021 Author Share Posted February 9, 2021 The document from which I supplied the screen capture is still being built, so I'm just getting rolling here. I should've captured the first problem, but if anything else weird happens, I'll document it. I did not notice whether the Forum has a spot for reporting bugs. Is this section good for that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Move Along People Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 - Quote Move Along people,nothing to see here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectorCat Posted February 9, 2021 Author Share Posted February 9, 2021 Right, but why should it be named "Shape Text" when it was made with the Rectangle Tool, as was its replacement, shown in this screen capture? Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Move Along People Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 - Quote Move Along people,nothing to see here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectorCat Posted February 9, 2021 Author Share Posted February 9, 2021 haakoo - that is true enough. That is what it shows. However that first perimeter box was made with the Rectangle tool. I was looking for it in the Layers Studio; no way I could know that for whatever reason it was named Shape Text, locked or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Move Along People Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 - Quote Move Along people,nothing to see here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectorCat Posted February 9, 2021 Author Share Posted February 9, 2021 Sound advice which I'll use. Now that I've seen a few squirrelly things, I'm going to be extra-sensitive to anything out of place, and will post here if it seems useful. Thank you for your help, haakoo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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walt.farrell Posted February 9, 2021 Share Posted February 9, 2021 45 minutes ago, VectorCat said: However that first perimeter box was made with the Rectangle tool. And there's no possibility that you touched it with a Text Tool after creating it, thus turning it into a Shape Text object? Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC:    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090   Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad:  iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectorCat Posted February 10, 2021 Author Share Posted February 10, 2021 1 hour ago, walt.farrell said: And there's no possibility that you touched it with a Text Tool after creating it, thus turning it into a Shape Text object? It definitely is possible. I think it unlikely because after creating that box, I set to getting it to look how I need it re: fill and stroke. Yet, I take your point. It certainly is possible that your scenario could've happened, and apparently touching an active Rectangle with a Text Tool will transform that Rectangle into a Shape Text. I shall pay extra attention to watching what I do with my tool usage / selection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectorCat Posted February 10, 2021 Author Share Posted February 10, 2021 So..as an experiment, I just created a rectangle in that very same document, and with the rectangle active, I touched a text tool, and then the other text tool, and then with several other tools. The Rectangle remained a Rectangle in the Layers Studio. Walt, do I misunderstand your point about that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted February 10, 2021 Share Posted February 10, 2021 The conversion happens if you touch (click) the rectangle with a text tool. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC:    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090   Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad:  iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectorCat Posted February 10, 2021 Author Share Posted February 10, 2021 1 hour ago, walt.farrell said: The conversion happens if you touch (click) the rectangle with a text tool.  So it does, yes! I just confirmed on another Mac. When I resume work on the initial Mac tomorrow morning, I'll take a look at the history to see whether I did do this, but after my experiment just now, it's clear that it would be vanishingly simple to have done that to my rectangle. In any case, a good learning experience for me, and I thank you for bringing it to the discussion! walt.farrell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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