black and white print with a brown tint

[johdum]

Hello everyone,

When I print a black and white photo using Affinity photo it has a slight sepia colour.

The monitor is calibrated and for the paper I use I have created an ICC profile.

Previously I worked with Capture NX2 and I used this program for printing and had no problems with the colour tone.
Below the photo (scanned) printed by AP and the corresponding settings.

 

 

 

Below is the photo printed out using a different programme with the ICC profile selected from the printer settings.

 

 

Has someone an idea what the problem could be.

Probably a setting I overlooked.

Thanks in advance

Johan

[johdum]

Hi everyone,

Does anyone have a solution for my printing problem.

Or do you need more info.

Thanks in advance

 

 

 

[johdum]

Thank you for your response.

I assume you mean the profile created for the type of paper I use.

See below

Colour space of the picture sRGB IEC 61966-2.1

 

 

[AlainP]

It's a problem sometimes when printing under Windows as it allows two different printer profiles for the same print job.

You should try with "color managed by Printer", icc profile for your paper an printer, and make sure that you have the same setting in your printer properties.

[johdum]

@BofG

thank you for your reply.

Using the soft proof layer and selecting the paper, there is a very slight difference on the monitor with that layer enabled or disabled....

I did the print with the soft proof layer turned off.

The reason why I want to use AP for printing is to use as much as possible of this programme.

Provided I have a good result.

@AlainP always happy to receive a tip from someone else.

Tomorrow evening I will test this out and definitely let you know.

In Belguim it is for the moment 22h45 and time for sleep.

 

 

[AlainP]

You always turn off "Soft Proof" before printing.

I had problems too in the beginning printing using Photo. But now it prints very well, the problem is the way Windows uses icc profiles.

Bonne nuit.... ou bon matin !

 

[AlainP]

The problem I had before was that I was assigning an icc profile in Photo and another one in the Canon printer properties panel. Some apps, like Qimage, stop this from happenning. MacOS manages this well, but not Windows so far. I now print from Photo without any problem.

 

[johdum]

hi,

For the enclosed printout, I have done the colour handling via the printer.

In the printer settings, ICM selected and this has the same result as a print from another program.

Something for the developers to look into?

Because I think that at the moment, we do not have many possibilities to achieve a correct printout if AP is managing colour. 

If there are any more tips from you guys, please let them know.

Otherwise, thanks in advance for helping me find a solution.

 

[johdum]

@BofGThanks for the info.

The prepared paper/printer profile is assigned to my printer by default In the Windows colour management settings.

[Dan C]

Hi @johdum,

Welcome to the Affinity forums and our sincerest apologies for the delayed response here!

As mentioned above;

On 2/11/2021 at 11:12 AM, BofG said:

If the soft proof looks fine, and that profile works from a different application without issue, then the profile must be okay. (...) just export to PDF and print from Adobe Reader.

It certainly sounds as though Affinity is struggling to use the ICC profile for your Canon printer, could you please provide a copy of this .ICC so that we can look into this for you?

Can you also please confirm, have you tried exporting to PDF and printing this externally? I would like to know if the correct colours are being exported from Affinity with your document.

On 2/7/2021 at 8:25 PM, johdum said:

The monitor is calibrated and for the paper I use I have created an ICC profile.

I've previously seen monitor calibration causing print colours to be incorrect when printing from Affinity, as we perform 'document-to-screen' colour profile conversion, which then may be converted once again when printing and this can occasionally produce incorrect results. If you set your monitor to the default sRGB profile in Windows, then try printing from Affinity once more - does this now print with the correct colours?

I would also like to know what Colour settings you have set in Affinity. Please open Edit > Preferences > Performance and provide a screenshot of your settings here, this should look similar to the below -

 

Many thanks in advance

[johdum]

Hi Dan C

Thanks for the interest in my problem.

Used the latest AP software (1.9.1.979 (Beta)) to run some new test prints.

Paper ICC profile Canon MX920 series Printer_Canon PP201_20210117_1525.icm

and the monitor profile IIYAMA PL2252H_20210116.icm

AP color settings

The TIF file i used test-ramp.tif

scanned printout > color settings by app 

file exported to PDF and printed out with the same settings as above.

Then I set the profile of the monitor to sRGB and I printed the TIFF file again.

Same phenomenon as if the monitor was set with the calibrated profile.

Hopefully, this is enough information for you to have a look at the print problem.

Otherwise, please let me know.

Thanks in advance. 

[lepr]

9 minutes ago, johdum said:

Then I set the profile of the monitor to sRGB and I printed the TIFF file again.

Same phenomenon as if the monitor was set with the calibrated profile.

The monitor profile is not involved in printing. It can influence your expectation of the printed appearance since it affects the preview displayed on the monitor, but it does not get applied to the printing process.