benwiggy Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 Now that we have Passthrough PDF in Publisher, will we see a similar feature in Designer to open PDFs accurately, outlining any glyphs you're not sure about? (Or even an "Outline fonts" checkbox in the import options?) And similarly being able to raster a PDF in Photo without text being "interpreted"? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 The Passthrough support is for Placing PDF files, not Opening them. Opening requires interpretation, presence of same fonts, etc. Designer also has the Passthrough support for Placing PDF files. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benwiggy Posted February 5, 2021 Author Share Posted February 5, 2021 5 hours ago, walt.farrell said: The Passthrough support is for Placing PDF files, not Opening them. Opening requires interpretation, presence of same fonts, etc. Is a placed PDF not opened, read, displayed, and printed? What many people want to do with PDFs is open them in a vector package for editing. Other apps manage to do this, outlining glyphs where necessary. Lots of Photo editors can raster a PDF page, without altering the text because it's tried to 'interpret' the contents in some bizarre way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 56 minutes ago, benwiggy said: Is a placed PDF not opened, read, displayed, and printed? It is opened. It is placed onto the document. A visual representation of the selected page is made available for presentation/display within the application while looking at the document. How that visual representation is constructed is different for Interpreted vs Passthrough. Then eventually the document is exported. If it's exported to PDF format, then if the Placed PDF was Passthrough, the chosen PDF page is transferred to the exported file unchanged. But if it was Interpreted then the Interpreted (modified) version is used. I don't know what happens if you Print, rather than Export. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benwiggy Posted February 5, 2021 Author Share Posted February 5, 2021 This is all very interesting, but why do other apps not have the problems that Affinity does with importing PDFs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 18 minutes ago, benwiggy said: This is all very interesting, but why do other apps not have the problems that Affinity does with importing PDFs? The main issue is with fonts. The Affinity applications cannot make use of the fonts embedded in a PDF, and must instead use locally installed versions of the fonts. Other applications do not have that limitation. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benwiggy Posted February 6, 2021 Author Share Posted February 6, 2021 10 hours ago, walt.farrell said: Other applications do not have that limitation. We know! The question is ... how long before Affinity catches up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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