noortje korst Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 I have just switched from Adobe InDesign to Affinity Publisher . For font management I use Type face. In Affinity activated fonts (within Typeface) do not show up in Publisher ! Why is that? They do show up in IDD. The activated fonts are not Postr Script fonts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Welcome to the Serif Affinity forums. It would help to know which fonts are having problems, and to have a screenshot of the font list in InDesign and in Publisher. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noortje korst Posted January 23, 2021 Author Share Posted January 23, 2021 Hello, First of all thanks for tyoureply. Any font I activate in Type Face does not show up in In Design. The problem does not seem te be the fint itself. NB with a friend of mine I checked it out on a few fonts. . She has Affinity and Type Face as well but doesn't face this problem.The Typeface activated fonts do show up It seems to me that the Mac Font manager might be preferent somehow??? We checked all preferences , it seems to be the same, so I have no idea really. I'll send you a screenshot of a font we tried (Aftershock) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noortje korst Posted January 23, 2021 Author Share Posted January 23, 2021 Sorry I wrote : any font I activate in Typeface does not show up in In Design, but as the screenshots show... it DOES in In Design and does NOT in Affinity (and Pages and Keynote) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v_kyr Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Which MacOS version? Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.8 ◆ OSX El Capitan ☛ Affinity V2.3 apps ◆ MacOS Sonoma 14.2 ◆ iPad OS 17.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noortje korst Posted January 23, 2021 Author Share Posted January 23, 2021 11.1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v_kyr Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 There are some Big Sur related problems with fonts and overall font handling, see for example ... Big Sur (macOS 11) font conflicts with Helvetica and other common fonts Fonts included with macOS Big Sur https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252043261 etc. Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.8 ◆ OSX El Capitan ☛ Affinity V2.3 apps ◆ MacOS Sonoma 14.2 ◆ iPad OS 17.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Also, that is a very old font; one of your screenshots shows it is from 1999. It may simply be that your copy of the font is old enough that it's using old technology that Affinity does not support. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castagno Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Hi! I have the same problems as you have. Frutiger and Garamond don't appear in the correct depiction. I forwarded that problem and the answer was it was transferd to the developers. walt.farrell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v_kyr Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Castagno said: ...Frutiger and Garamond don't appear in the correct depiction. "Because Apple includes and activates specific versions of Helvetica and other common fonts as active and locked in their system fonts upon starting the computer, does not allow you to deactivate or move/remove them. This also includes the use of such tools as FontBook or any other font management tools to deactivate duplicate fonts that reside in the system fonts folders so you may use an alternative font." Frutiger and Garamond are among those Apple specific versions, see my above link to fonts included in Big Sur. Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.8 ◆ OSX El Capitan ☛ Affinity V2.3 apps ◆ MacOS Sonoma 14.2 ◆ iPad OS 17.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noortje korst Posted January 23, 2021 Author Share Posted January 23, 2021 but still, how can it possibly be then that my friend does NOT face this problem, whereas we've compared everything in the preferences/ settings of Affinity and Typeface we could possibly think of?! She purchased Affinity a few days before me, and we purchased Typeface at the same time! We tried the same font (Aftershock) just as a trial. Her computer shows the font in both In Design and Affinity Mine does only in In Design She also works in BIG SUR on Imac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 Just tossing this out there, have you shut down the problem programs and restarted them? There are some font managers which work like that. Others (extremely old versions) require the machine to be restarted after fonts are imported/loaded. Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.4 Affinity Designer 2.4.1 | Affinity Photo 2.4.1 | Affinity Publisher 2.4.1 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v_kyr Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 TypeFace seems not to be fully Big Sur compiant yet (see here). - Do you use M1 hardware (then try it with Rosetta) or an Intel CPU based Apple hardware? The difference between InDesign and other apps for font activation and settings is explained here for TypeFace! Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.8 ◆ OSX El Capitan ☛ Affinity V2.3 apps ◆ MacOS Sonoma 14.2 ◆ iPad OS 17.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loukash Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 6 hours ago, noortje korst said: a font we tried (Aftershock) Perhaps you may want to download and install updated versions of your fonts:https://www.dafont.com/sf-aftershock-debris.font (among others) Definitely works for me on El Capitan: (The Typeface app looks nice, by the way. Have seen it before but was still too basic then. Seems to have matured in the meantime, so I will check out the demo. On El Capitan I'm still happy with FontExplorerX 4 which is now free but it doesn't run on Catalina.) Other than that, MacOS can be picky about fonts. If something doesn't seem to work as it should, the best cure is to delete all font chaches. https://www.titanium-software.fr/en/onyx.html can do it, but make sure to download the exact version for your MacOS. Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstdefence Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 In the Typeface app do you have this checked in preferences? Quote iMac 27" 2019 Somona 14.3.1, iMac 27" Affinity Designer, Photo & Publisher V1 & V2, Adobe, Inkscape, Vectorstyler, Blender, C4D, Sketchup + more... XP-Pen Artist-22E, - iPad Pro 12.9 (Please refrain from licking the screen while using this forum) Affinity Help - Affinity Desktop Tutorials - Feedback - FAQ - most asked questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Castagno Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 14 hours ago, v_kyr said: "Because Apple includes and activates specific versions of Helvetica and other common fonts as active and locked in their system fonts upon starting the computer, does not allow you to deactivate or move/remove them. This also includes the use of such tools as FontBook or any other font management tools to deactivate duplicate fonts that reside in the system fonts folders so you may use an alternative font." Frutiger and Garamond are among those Apple specific versions, see my above link to fonts included in Big Sur. Thanks! Yes, the only solution is using another font. But as I wrote it's a damn situation when I have to use a company's Corporate font. It's tricky, you do your job, everything looks good at the screen – and than you print it out and there is the bad surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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loukash Posted January 24, 2021 Share Posted January 24, 2021 17 hours ago, Castagno said: Frutiger and Garamond don't appear in the correct depiction 15 hours ago, v_kyr said: "Apple includes and activates specific versions of Helvetica and other common fonts as active and locked" That's no news though. It's been like that since, um… Mac OS X 10.0.0 Beta or so…? 1 hour ago, Castagno said: I have to use a company's Corporate font You have to use the exact typeface, but not the exact font files à la the ancient Type 1 Frutiger ("© 1988, 1990, 1994 Adobe Systems") which will quite likely conflict with Apple's new default. I don't have Bug Sur, so I cannot check that, but beentheredonethat in the past two decades with Helvetica, Times, Futura, Optima, Palatino, Avenir, you name it. Solution: Tell the company to supply – or pay for – updated OTF versions of the fonts for you to use. E.g. comparing the old Type 1 Frutiger with Frutiger LT Pro, the glyphs are 100% identical, although you may need to adjust line spacing etc. when using the new font. But otherwise the PostScript names are different, hence no conflicts with existing fonts whatsoever. Quote MacBookAir 15": MacOS Ventura > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // MacBookPro 15" mid-2012: MacOS El Capitan > Affinity v1 / MacOS Catalina > Affinity v1, v2, v2 beta // iPad 8th: iPadOS 16 > Affinity v2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Castagno Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Thank's a lot for all your hints and advises! Very kind of you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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