Barc Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) Hi, is it possible to creat an bigger workspace than 21.674,7mm (21,67m; 853 inch)? My company produce rolls bigger than 21m (25m to 50m) and we are looking for an designer program (currently Corel) to create these. As info: We are using digital roll-to-roll printers to produce rolls for our customers. Thanks for your help! Marc Edited January 12, 2021 by Barc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joachim_L Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Welcome to the Affinity forums @Barc! It seems to be that 21,67 m is currently the limit for the Affinity applications. I guess making the document smaller and scaling in the printing dialogue is no choice? AFAIK Inkscape can make bigger documents, but then you cannot zoom to the complete page. Barc 1 Quote ------ Windows 10 | i5-8500 CPU | Intel UHD 630 Graphics | 32 GB RAM | Latest Retail and Beta versions of complete Affinity range installed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joachim_L Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 21,67 m is the limit. You see 22 m, because your decimal units for metres are set to 0 eventually. Quote ------ Windows 10 | i5-8500 CPU | Intel UHD 630 Graphics | 32 GB RAM | Latest Retail and Beta versions of complete Affinity range installed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barc Posted January 12, 2021 Author Share Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) Moin @Joachim_L, danke für das herzliche Willkommen. 😉 We are currently using this workaround in corel for rolls over the size of 25m. Our RIP (Onyx Thrive) can scale up the data to whatever size I want. But sometimes upscaling produces small deviations (~1-2mm) in our end product. Also some employees find it difficult to use and my quality manager sees an 'focus of error' in this. Nonetheless... thanks for your quick answer! Einen schönen Tag dir noch! 🤗 Edited January 12, 2021 by Barc Joachim_L 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joachim_L Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 @BofG This is interesting. Are you on Mac? On my system I cannot get over 21,67 m on retail or beta version. Barc asked for documents 25 up to 50 m. Quote ------ Windows 10 | i5-8500 CPU | Intel UHD 630 Graphics | 32 GB RAM | Latest Retail and Beta versions of complete Affinity range installed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joachim_L Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 LOL, so accidently we found a bug. See the attached video. Made it in beta 1.9.0.885, but is the same in retail 1.8.5.703. So @Barc, you can create bigger documents than 22 m. 50metre.mp4 Barc 1 Quote ------ Windows 10 | i5-8500 CPU | Intel UHD 630 Graphics | 32 GB RAM | Latest Retail and Beta versions of complete Affinity range installed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 The limit is based on the pixel dimensions of the document. At 300dpi you can only get 21.67 meters. At 72dpi you can get 90.311 meters.. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.7, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joachim_L Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 minute ago, walt.farrell said: The limit is based on the pixel dimensions of the document. At 300dpi you can only get 21.67 meters. At 72dpi you can get 90.311 meters.. Wrong. Use first 72 DPI, make your 90 metres entry and change back to 300 DPI and create the document and visit the Document Setup now. Quote ------ Windows 10 | i5-8500 CPU | Intel UHD 630 Graphics | 32 GB RAM | Latest Retail and Beta versions of complete Affinity range installed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barc Posted January 12, 2021 Author Share Posted January 12, 2021 12 minutes ago, Joachim_L said: Wrong. Use first 72 DPI, make your 90 metres entry and change back to 300 DPI and create the document and visit the Document Setup now. lol, okay.. that's the way bugs are found. 🤣 Maybe walt.farrell isn't that wrong. Eventually coming from 72dpi to 300dpi is the bug and the pixels are limited?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barc Posted January 12, 2021 Author Share Posted January 12, 2021 1 minute ago, BofG said: I found that "feature" without realising I wonder what the idea behind those limits is? Clearly the program functions regardless, maybe memory concerns? Export to PDF has me confused, as according to the PDF spec, with < v1.6 files the user space is fixed at 1/72 inch and the size limit is 14,400 'units' x 14,400 'units'. That works out to 200 inch x 200 inch (5.08m x 5.08m). Yet I can happily export a larger file than that to v1.4/v1.5. Sometimes the pdf export is very confusing no matter what program. We always export our printing files in eps, happily our RIP can be 'feeded' with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacerto Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 (...) Barc 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barc Posted January 12, 2021 Author Share Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Lagarto said: If you intend to replace CorelDRAW, please note that you cannot ouput anything in CMYK from within Affinity apps. But you could produce e.g. PDF or EPS in Affinity Designer and the open it in CorelDRAW (or any other app supporting CMYK output) and print it. A huge thank you for the info! Missed that. This is definitely a criteria for exclusion.. 😥 Edited January 12, 2021 by Barc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barc Posted January 12, 2021 Author Share Posted January 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, BofG said: Nope it's not that, you get all the pixels you ask for Okay, that's nice. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joachim_L Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 2 minutes ago, Barc said: A huge thank you for the info! Missed that. This is definitely a criteria for exclusion.. 😥 ? You said a few posts before that you always export as EPS to feed your RIP. So there should be no problem as you are not printing to your RIP. Barc 1 Quote ------ Windows 10 | i5-8500 CPU | Intel UHD 630 Graphics | 32 GB RAM | Latest Retail and Beta versions of complete Affinity range installed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barc Posted January 12, 2021 Author Share Posted January 12, 2021 (edited) Okay, so I misunderstood that one. Thanks for the clarification. I'm a total newbie in Affinity.. sorry. 🥴 Edited January 12, 2021 by Barc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Barc Posted January 12, 2021 Author Share Posted January 12, 2021 38 minutes ago, Lagarto said: Note though that there are practical limitations to the dimensions of PDF and EPS files that other apps can handle. If I try to create a 50 x 50 m PDF from within Designer, it does create it, but it cannot be read in Adobe Acrobat 2020 Pro, or CorelDRAW (2017), or Illustrator (CS6). The dimension limitation in Designer when creating a new document is a UI bug. There are no problems in redminensioning an artboard using the Transform panel to something like 50 x 50 m. Yep, I know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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