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Please Make The Efficient Colour Bar Spacing to Reduce Paper Cutting Waste


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I may be wrong but these may be mandated by the standards for SRA paper sizes used in commercial printing and registration guides for digital or offset presses to monitor the colour quality variance. the position would seem to support those sizes

 

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7 hours ago, HANDJOJO said:

I have a suggestion for the Colour Bar Position to reduce potentially to much paper cutting waste

How would moving the colour and densitometer bars reduce paper waste? The trim box (determined by the positions of the crop marks) is still the same size.

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1 minute ago, Alfred said:

How would moving the colour and densitometer bars reduce paper waste? The trim box (determined by the positions of the crop marks) is still the same size.

Because you could print on smaller sheets of paper? Thus less paper would be wasted when trimmed, as the overall sheet size would be smaller.

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21 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

Because you could print on smaller sheets of paper? Thus less paper would be wasted when trimmed, as the overall sheet size would be smaller.

Ah, my bad! I was looking at the second screenshot rather than the first one, so I lost sight of the fact that those bars are usually beyond the bounds of the registration targets.

As @Wosven has pointed out, the current arrangement makes proper allowance for bleed. The bars could perhaps be moved in a little bit, but probably not enough to save a significant amount of paper.

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And for info, when we check adds send by cutomers, we check embedded fonts, colour profile, paper size, amount of bleed and that the trim box is centered.
No need for colours bars nor "hirondelles" (registration marks).

Page information can be usefull if files aren't renamed (_v1, _v2, etc.), to check it's the lastest version (time), after client applied corrections if the previous file(s) didn't respected the specifications.

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14 hours ago, Wosven said:

If you don't want to waste paper, don't print them.

I knew some reaction to be laught my suggestion and look funny, for me the colour bar spacing to large (because previously I used another program and the spacing close to the crop mark of the paper size). 

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14 hours ago, walt.farrell said:

Because you could print on smaller sheets of paper? Thus less paper would be wasted when trimmed, as the overall sheet size would be smaller.

Yes Walt, I agree with you, if you print a lot of sheet would be usefull due the size of sheet with the current position to be large size, if you print one piece of sheet to be nothing for the efficiently. 😉

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11 hours ago, Wosven said:

And for info, when we check adds send by cutomers, we check embedded fonts, colour profile, paper size, amount of bleed and that the trim box is centered.
No need for colours bars nor "hirondelles" (registration marks).

Page information can be usefull if files aren't renamed (_v1, _v2, etc.), to check it's the lastest version (time), after client applied corrections if the previous file(s) didn't respected the specifications.

I do also only provide; the crop mark, and registration mark, and also check the embedded font and  only in some situation I put the colour bar, however the Densitometer/Colour Bar made for the purposes of color calibration in printing, and the ideal position should be in the line with the Crop Mark not too far because later it will be cut also.

 

 

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13 hours ago, Alfred said:

Ah, my bad! I was looking at the second screenshot rather than the first one, so I lost sight of the fact that those bars are usually beyond the bounds of the registration targets.

As @Wosven has pointed out, the current arrangement makes proper allowance for bleed. The bars could perhaps be moved in a little bit, but probably not enough to save a significant amount of paper.

Yes Alfred the colour bar position not over the crop mark of the document size, maximum in the line of the crop mark.

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