HANDJOJO Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 Dear Affinty Developer/Designer, Please make the efficient Colour Bar spacing to reduce paper cutting waste, with the current design the spacing between Colour Bar and paper size to large, potentially to much paper cutting waste. Thanks & B/regards, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HANDJOJO Posted January 10, 2021 Author Share Posted January 10, 2021 I have a suggestion for the Colour Bar Position to reduce potentially to much paper cutting waste as follows: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanPickup Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 I may be wrong but these may be mandated by the standards for SRA paper sizes used in commercial printing and registration guides for digital or offset presses to monitor the colour quality variance. the position would seem to support those sizes Quote Alan Pickup Windows 11 Home all Affinity suite of Apps PC and Gigabyte Laptop 16gb Ram and Nvidia GTX1660 Super on each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wosven Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 It would be wrong to have the colours in the bleed, or we would have to add extra bleed to get them out of the area to respect needed specifications... garrettm30 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wosven Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 If you don't want to waste paper, don't print them. Alfred 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 7 hours ago, HANDJOJO said: I have a suggestion for the Colour Bar Position to reduce potentially to much paper cutting waste How would moving the colour and densitometer bars reduce paper waste? The trim box (determined by the positions of the crop marks) is still the same size. Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.4.1 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Alfred said: How would moving the colour and densitometer bars reduce paper waste? The trim box (determined by the positions of the crop marks) is still the same size. Because you could print on smaller sheets of paper? Thus less paper would be wasted when trimmed, as the overall sheet size would be smaller. Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 21 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: Because you could print on smaller sheets of paper? Thus less paper would be wasted when trimmed, as the overall sheet size would be smaller. Ah, my bad! I was looking at the second screenshot rather than the first one, so I lost sight of the fact that those bars are usually beyond the bounds of the registration targets. As @Wosven has pointed out, the current arrangement makes proper allowance for bleed. The bars could perhaps be moved in a little bit, but probably not enough to save a significant amount of paper. Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.4.1 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wosven Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 And for info, when we check adds send by cutomers, we check embedded fonts, colour profile, paper size, amount of bleed and that the trim box is centered. No need for colours bars nor "hirondelles" (registration marks). Page information can be usefull if files aren't renamed (_v1, _v2, etc.), to check it's the lastest version (time), after client applied corrections if the previous file(s) didn't respected the specifications. Alfred 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HANDJOJO Posted January 11, 2021 Author Share Posted January 11, 2021 14 hours ago, Wosven said: If you don't want to waste paper, don't print them. I knew some reaction to be laught my suggestion and look funny, for me the colour bar spacing to large (because previously I used another program and the spacing close to the crop mark of the paper size). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HANDJOJO Posted January 11, 2021 Author Share Posted January 11, 2021 14 hours ago, walt.farrell said: Because you could print on smaller sheets of paper? Thus less paper would be wasted when trimmed, as the overall sheet size would be smaller. Yes Walt, I agree with you, if you print a lot of sheet would be usefull due the size of sheet with the current position to be large size, if you print one piece of sheet to be nothing for the efficiently. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HANDJOJO Posted January 11, 2021 Author Share Posted January 11, 2021 11 hours ago, Wosven said: And for info, when we check adds send by cutomers, we check embedded fonts, colour profile, paper size, amount of bleed and that the trim box is centered. No need for colours bars nor "hirondelles" (registration marks). Page information can be usefull if files aren't renamed (_v1, _v2, etc.), to check it's the lastest version (time), after client applied corrections if the previous file(s) didn't respected the specifications. I do also only provide; the crop mark, and registration mark, and also check the embedded font and only in some situation I put the colour bar, however the Densitometer/Colour Bar made for the purposes of color calibration in printing, and the ideal position should be in the line with the Crop Mark not too far because later it will be cut also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HANDJOJO Posted January 11, 2021 Author Share Posted January 11, 2021 13 hours ago, Alfred said: Ah, my bad! I was looking at the second screenshot rather than the first one, so I lost sight of the fact that those bars are usually beyond the bounds of the registration targets. As @Wosven has pointed out, the current arrangement makes proper allowance for bleed. The bars could perhaps be moved in a little bit, but probably not enough to save a significant amount of paper. Yes Alfred the colour bar position not over the crop mark of the document size, maximum in the line of the crop mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HANDJOJO Posted January 11, 2021 Author Share Posted January 11, 2021 This is what I mean to efficiently the size of sheet, I attach the sample ☺️ The simulation with the same sheet but the different document print size. Thanks & B/regards, Wosven 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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