Publisher: keep with the NEXT paragraph

[uli123]

For headings in my opinion it is absolutly necessary to keep it with the NEXT paragraph. But there is only the setting "Keep with PREVIOUS paragraph". To set all the first paragraphs after the heading with "keep previous" is for me the wrong way.

Thanks,

Uli

[walt.farrell]

In your Paragraph text style for the heading, try the Flow Option "Keep with next ... lines".  Setting it to "1" seems to work for me.

[uli123]

That was it, thanks!

Sorry for my stupid question, but it is my first publication with Affinity Publisher (after more than 25 years with other programs). I have to train my eyes to find all the settings in this new program.

[sfriedberg]

@walt.farrellThat seems to beg the question why the complementary option is not  "Keep with previous X lines", or at least why the forward and reverse adjacent-paragraph-keep-with properties are not  symmetric.

Where is @Jowday ?

Perhaps due to my familiarity with other applications, I am accustomed to thinking of this as "keep with next paragraph" and it's a property I routinely set on header paragraph styles.

I am also used to being able to set multi-line thresholds for orphan and widow avoidances.  AffPub always uses an implicit threshold of one line.

[Jowday]

2 hours ago, sfriedberg said:

@walt.farrellThat seems to beg the question why the complementary option is not  "Keep with previous X lines", or at least why the forward and reverse adjacent-paragraph-keep-with properties are not  symmetric.

Where is @Jowday ?

Perhaps due to my familiarity with other applications, I am accustomed to thinking of this as "keep with next paragraph" and it's a property I routinely set on header paragraph styles.

I am also used to being able to set multi-line thresholds for orphan and widow avoidances.  AffPub always uses an implicit threshold of one line.

This time Serif actually left PagePlus' breaks options behind and mimicked InDesign a bit (ignore red rectangle) but didn't organize and communicate it as well as Adobe. The usual chaotic order and Keep, prevent, keep, prevent, keep. 

I think Serif made the wise choice to adapt to more serious use cases and customers than with PagePlus. Keep with previous suits me well personally. Without support in Publisher for cross references especially I will not get the chance to try it out in production and big documents to see how well it works in practice and different or same styles and style variations. Personally I believe keep with previous + keep with next x lines is targeting real life issues and solutions so I am in theory... satisfied.

Interested to see where it all goes. I think Serif is massively loosing control of simplicity in the user interface in Publisher almost from initial take off and flow options are important. Folding and collapsing paragraph studio/panel with tired eyes (or even fresh eyes) is not a great experience and I hope the flow options will be modified and improved a bit. 

  

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