Thomas Xu Posted December 30, 2020 Posted December 30, 2020 Hello, Affinity Photo seems to have some problems on recognising the colour space of .ORF file. On my camera (Olympus em1 mark2), the colour space was set to Adobe RGB. It could be proved in Olympus Workspace. As shown in the screenshot below, the colour space was Adobe RGB indeed. However, in Affinity Photo, the colour space was recognised as sRGB IEC61966-2.1, instead of Adobe RGB. Then, I exported the raw image to TIFF in Olympus Workspace. ICC profile was kept as Adobe RGB. And open the .tiff photo with Affinity Photo. This time, the colour space is recognised correctly as Adobe RGB. So, why does the problem occur? It was caused by a bug, uncompleted support of .ORF file, or it was a normal phenomenon? (My computer is MacBook Pro Intel, Operation system is 11.1, Version of Affinity Photo is 1.8.6) Thank You! Quote
v_kyr Posted December 30, 2020 Posted December 30, 2020 Hi, even it says/reads sRGB there it should be operational an unbounded space, so usually a full-float linear RGB working space, thus with a gamut (color space) similar in wide to ProPhoto (ROMM) which goes much beyond Adobe RGB. Comparison of sRGB/Adobe RGB/ProPhoto gamuts ... Typical color projection in L*a*b* ... Thomas Xu 1 Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.8 ◆ OSX El Capitan ☛ Affinity V2.3 apps ◆ MacOS Sonoma 14.2 ◆ iPad OS 17.2
walt.farrell Posted December 30, 2020 Posted December 30, 2020 Welcome to the Serif Affinity forums, @Thomas Xu. RAW images do not have a color space, and are neither sRGB nor Adobe RGB. When a camera has a setting for that, it is usually used only when the camera is producing JPG output, not RAW output. Your camera's manual will have more information on that. Thomas Xu 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2, 16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.5, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.5
v_kyr Posted December 30, 2020 Posted December 30, 2020 The above shown Olympus Workspace probably shows/lists only the cam internal made/setup settings there (...things it would also keep as Exif data if an image is captured and processed in cam as a bitmap JPG/TIFF image and for cam internal preview). For the RAW file format the color space (gamut) setup as default inside the cam is meaningless, since the raw data fetched from the sensor isn't associated or limited to any ICC defined color space so far. - Later after a RAW file is processed inside a RAW converter software, that final processed result (the image color data) will be mapped and associated to a specified color space (gamut) here, so screen devices (monitors) can make use of it at all and show up the image then in terms of the specified color space. Thomas Xu 1 Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.8 ◆ OSX El Capitan ☛ Affinity V2.3 apps ◆ MacOS Sonoma 14.2 ◆ iPad OS 17.2
Fixx Posted December 31, 2020 Posted December 31, 2020 As RAW has no colour space attached AP attaches a colour space to image in develop. It should follow AP working colour space set in Preferences. Thomas Xu 1 Quote
Pšenda Posted January 2, 2021 Posted January 2, 2021 ... or set in Develop Persona (Basic panel). Fixx 1 Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.5.7.2948 (Retail) Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 24H2, Build 26100.2605. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130.
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