if i will buy the windows version because there is no linux one. would you convert my license in a possible future linux version?

[dancebles]

hi

i'm asking because my main os is ubuntu.

thanks!!

[firstdefence]

Sorry to shatter your dreams but that's never going to happen, I think for the foreseeable future the best one could hope for is the Linux community succeed in getting a port of the windows or Mac version.

[Pšenda]

I think your question pretty much sums up one of the reasons, why companies are hesitant to port their programs to Linux - the reluctance of its users to pay for the programs.

[Alfred]

People who purchase a licence for one of the existing platforms (Mac, Windows, or iPad) have to make a new purchase if they switch to a different platform, so why should we expect the licence for a Linux version not to work the same way?

[dancebles]

2 hours ago, Alfred said:

People who purchase a licence for one of the existing platforms (Mac, Windows, or iPad) have to make a new purchase if they switch to a different platform, so why should we expect the licence for a Linux version not to work the same way?

it's not that i can choose not to buy for linux. it wasn't available at first place. i would've bought the linux version if i just had the option.

just wondered. i think it is a fair solution for the mostly linux users that can't choose otherwise at the moment.

maybe it's only me thinking this way

[Alfred]

47 minutes ago, dancebles said:

it's not that i can choose not to buy for linux. it wasn't available at first place.

That’s really not so different from a Windows laptop user being unable to choose to buy the Mac version for their machine. If they subsequently buy an iMac and they want to use the software on it, they have to make a new purchase.

[dancebles]

so maybe the best idea is to make the licenses not dependent on os's but on the number of users. i mean a cross platform licenses

 

[Pšenda]

4 hours ago, dancebles said:

so maybe the best idea is to make the licenses not dependent on os's but on the number of users. i mean a cross platform licenses

I suppose you would like it to be at the same (very low) license price. Or would you be willing to pay 3-4 times more for a license? That would be really gratifying news for someone/most who is only interested in one platform.

[firstdefence]

15 hours ago, dancebles said:

so maybe the best idea is to make the licenses not dependent on os's but on the number of users. i mean a cross platform licenses

Unfortunately the realities of economics will prevent that.

Imagine you want heating fitting to rooms in your house, each room has a name, Mac, , iOS, Windows. You can pay individually to have heating fitted to each room and that will cost you £50 (I know cheap fitter eh) or you can pay for all the rooms to be heated in one go which will cost you £150. Do you think it's fair to pay the heating engineer for one room but have all the rooms heated?

Now you could say well, I can buy a heater and move it from room to room but that heater is never going to be as good as an installed heating, unless, you buy an expensive heater that puts out more heat to match the installed heating and even then it only heats one room for the same cost as the installed heating heating all the rooms.

[Alfred]

2 hours ago, firstdefence said:

Do you think it's fair to pay the heating engineer for one room but have all the rooms heated?

I hope this isn’t going to turn into a heated argument!

[dancebles]

i'm not sure the heating engineer example is the same general thing

i also wonder why it is not possible to easily allow one license per purchase for whichever platform

too bad there are just two options which are serif and adobe. but of course it is very good that serif is an alternative to adobe to some degree.

i'm not very familiar with graphics creation but still use affinity photo for exporting photos at this point.

my original question meant to just get the answer about linux conversion.....

thank you

[walt.farrell]

18 minutes ago, dancebles said:

i also wonder why it is not possible to easily allow one license per purchase for whichever platform

How would an Affinity application on Windows know that you'd purchased the application from the Mac App Store? Or how would the Windows Store know of your purchase from the Mac App Store? Or vice versa?

[wonderings]

I would like to see a license work cross platform, Adobe does that now and it is great. That being said, the software is cheaper to buy then 2 months of subscription to Adobe so cost is not really all that prohibitive if you truly need multi platform software. 

As for buying on Windows because there is no Linux version, not sure why it would be expected that you could transfer if/when they have a Linux version release. The Linux community is not owed anything by Serif or any other software developer. You would not go buy a normal car from Subaru and expect them to then trade it in for a fully electric version when they release it because you wanted it now but they did not offer it. 

There are a few large threads devoted to Affinity on Linux that I would suggest you check out. A lot of discussion of it as well as Serifs response to Linux. At the moment I would not hold your breath for a Linux release. 

[dancebles]

38 minutes ago, wonderings said:

At the moment I would not hold your breath for a Linux release. 

ok. anyway, i knew that it is not something they plan to do anytime soon.

[dancebles]

2 hours ago, walt.farrell said:

How would an Affinity application on Windows know that you'd purchased the application from the Mac App Store?

my idea was to convert the license so it only worked in one os. i'm not talking about stores besides the serif store.

[walt.farrell]

6 minutes ago, dancebles said:

my idea was to convert the license so it only worked in one os. i'm not talking about stores besides the serif store.

Serif have said they want all customers to have the same capabilities regardless of which Store they buy from. Therefore, if something is not possible for people who purchased from Apple or Microsoft they don't want to make it available for people who buy directly from Serif.

[Alfred]

3 hours ago, dancebles said:

i'm not talking about stores besides the serif store.

But you have to talk about the other stores, too! Serif have deliberately chosen to use Apple’s pricing matrix so that there’s no price discrimination between Windows users and Mac users, or between Affinity Store purchases and Microsoft Store or Mac App Store purchases. At full price, the desktop versions of the Affinity apps are Tier 50 products (US$49.99) and the price in various countries around the world is calculated automatically.

[dancebles]

yes

it's comlicated

[gnx]

On 12/27/2020 at 12:08 PM, Pšenda said:

I think your question pretty much sums up one of the reasons, why companies are hesitant to port their programs to Linux - the reluctance of its users to pay for the programs.

I don't think Linux users are reluctant to pay for their programs. As a developer working on Linux I've seen plenty of people working with paid software, especially from JetBrains. It has become an industry standard, I would say. 

[Pšenda]

24 minutes ago, gnx said:

I don't think Linux users are reluctant to pay for their programs.

Not really? And in what words would you, as a software developer, who has to support himself and his family with his work, characterize the requirements and opinions of the OP, which although he knows that the Linux version is not developed, and therefore its eventual development will cost thousands of working/development hours, "appreciate" this work by wanting its product for free, because he has already paid for a completely different work (application for another OS)?

[gnx]

Just now, Pšenda said:

Not really? And in what words would you, as a software developer, who has to support himself and his family with his work, characterize the requirements and opinions of the OP, which although he knows that the Linux version is not developed, and therefore its eventual development will cost thousands of working/development hours, "appreciate" this work by wanting its product for free, because he has already paid for a completely different work (application for another OS)?

My point is that an opinion of the OP is not necessarily shared across other people using Linux for work. Other distros aside, Ubuntu alone has millions of users. Don't you think it is not exactly fair to judge the whole community like that?

I do have a great regard for developers such as Serif that come up with awesome products. I would gladly pay for a Linux version, if at some point Serif figures out creating one would benefit them. I know a lot of peers that would do the same.

[v_kyr]

50 minutes ago, gnx said:

I don't think Linux users are reluctant to pay for their programs. As a developer working on Linux I've seen plenty of people working with paid software, especially from JetBrains. It has become an industry standard, I would say. 

That's right, in the company we use several JetBrains dev tools on/for different platforms (Linux/Mac/Win) too, since the dev software and our own software runs and have to run cross-platform (further most of our servers are Linux based). However, all in all it also always highly depends on a software's platform availability and it's licensing models.

[dancebles]

if the program is good i might pay.

at the moment i've to boot windows too and too many times for using affinity. but also for davinci resolve which i don't know how to install well on linux (they have a linux vesion).