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Hi,

So the bullet list in Publisher makes the second (wrapped) line of a bullet point aligned with the bullet instead of the first line of text.

Every client ever wants the second line aligned with the text. Most software aligns it with the text by default. Actually I'd argue the whole point of a bullet list is to have text aligned to itself with the bullet separately to the left. Otherwise I could just have it as normal text with the bullet character in the beginning. It's somewhat annoying to have to put up with that every time there's a need to quickly insert a list.

The workaround seems to be using the text ruler - but more often than not it does this (gif attached).

Therefore

1. how do I get the second line correctly aligned?

2. Wouldn't it be a good idea to make the correct alignment the default behaviour? 

 

Thanks!

 

pubalignment.gif

Posted

Neither the Bullet 1 Text Style nor simply clicking on "Bulleted List" in the Context Toolbar behaves that way for me.

Here's what I get, which is what you want:

image.png.81b30b230b9bab9e234fe32faf7cc7a0.png

 

I'm not sure why you're seeing what you see. Can you provide a sample .afpub file that has the problem, so we can see what you've done?

-- Walt
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Posted

Sure. I literally just created a new document and made a text frame.

But, already thanks to your question I think I'm just doing it wrong:

I am setting bullet type to bullet from the Paragraph tab.
When just clicking the little bullet list icon on the toolbar it behaves as expected.

test_catsndogs.afpub

Posted

In the Edit Text Style dialog:
Paragraph > Spacing
Edit:
- Left Indent
- First Line Indent

I suspect there is a easier (more straight forward) method, but I don't know what it is and would like to know.

Posted

Usually, in QXD or ID, you need to add an "indent to here" (Text > Insert > Space and Tabs > Indent to Here) to get what you want, or modify the paragraph indent and the first line indent.

You can do the same in APub.

Posted
1 hour ago, pirxx said:

When just clicking the little bullet list icon on the toolbar it behaves as expected.

Thanks for the sample file.

You might start by using the Bullet 1 text style, or modifying the Bullet 1 text style.

Or, you might examine Bullet 1, since it behaves as you want, and then you might understand how to set up your text style.

For example, here's part of Bullet 1. Note the Left Indent and First Line Indent (as mentioned by @AmDivVal above):

image.png.2a26238e5940c369ba2311fbe4b6fb7f.png

If you just want to do it using the Paragraph panel, just make those same settings, and your file works as you want it to:

image.png.1f3613b8f30af2d64740a7677a2ef564.png

 

-- Walt
Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases
PC:
    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 

    Laptop:  Windows 11 Pro 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU.
    Laptop 2: Windows 11 Pro 24H2,  16GB memory, Snapdragon(R) X Elite - X1E80100 - Qualcomm(R) Oryon(TM) 12 Core CPU 4.01 GHz, Qualcomm(R) Adreno(TM) X1-85 GPU
iPad:  iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 18.5, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard 
Mac:  2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sequoia 15.5

Posted

@pirxx

Some additional observations. I've edited some bullets and realized there is more formatting that needs to be set beyond what I described above.

In the Edit Text Styles Dialog > Paragraph >Bullets and Numbering:
Type: Bullet (Obviously you have that)
Text: In dropdown, select Bullet. In dropdown again select Tab.
Tabstop: match this number to the number you set for Paragraph > Spacing > Left Indent

That tabstop part above was key that I did not know to look for.

I assume you have this functioning correctly, but I wanted to add to the discussion for anyone else that might find this thread. Everything wasn't covered, so I wanted to make this discussion more complete.

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