Bojuto Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Yes. Why with Big Sur on my MacBook Air is it taking so long to open the latest Affinity versions. Should one revert to the prior Apple version to remove this annoying wait? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff MEB Posted December 10, 2020 Staff Share Posted December 10, 2020 Hi @Bojuto, Welcome to Affinity Forums This is a known issue we are still investigating. It should only take more time open/launch after a cold boot. The second time you launch the app it should start as fast as usual. Reverting to a previous version (1.8.4) does prevent this from happening (always start fast no matter if after a cold boot or not). Quote A Guide to Learning Affinity Software Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bojuto Posted December 10, 2020 Author Share Posted December 10, 2020 I'm sorry to disagree. Design and Photo take just as long to open after first use. Publisher is now fine. I'm not sure if control click on the app icon to show latest files and opening from there might help. I'll let you know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bojuto Posted December 10, 2020 Author Share Posted December 10, 2020 Apologies. Yes, the apps do open correctly having closed them down. As I don't use them everyday I'll let you know if the delay occurs next time I use them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff MEB Posted December 10, 2020 Staff Share Posted December 10, 2020 Hi @Bojuto, This will happen everytime you run the application for the first time after turning your computer off. If you close the app and start it again a second time (without restarting the computer) there will be no delays. As said above, reverting to an older version (1.8.4) will prevent this from happening (even when you restart the computer) but i don't think it's worth it as it only happens the first time after a computer start/reboot. Quote A Guide to Learning Affinity Software Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 9 hours ago, MEB said: This is a known issue Recently, there are a lot of questions and complaints about version 1.8.6 (Big Sur) on the forum, which could be expected due to the novelty of this technology. Wouldn't it be more sensible to release this "debug" version as a Beta, rather than as a release/main version that just makes a lot of problems for users? Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
firstdefence Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 I don’t think, this is an Affinity issue, I have recently downgraded 3 Macs because of the slowness experienced after upgrading to Big Sur. All 3 were photographers and used Adobe Photoshop and 2 used Photo Mechanic and all noticed a marked difference in a lack of speed. Dropping back to Catalina got their systems back to what they were used to. Quote iMac 27" 2019 Somona 14.3.1, iMac 27" Affinity Designer, Photo & Publisher V1 & V2, Adobe, Inkscape, Vectorstyler, Blender, C4D, Sketchup + more... XP-Pen Artist-22E, - iPad Pro 12.9 (Please refrain from licking the screen while using this forum) Affinity Help - Affinity Desktop Tutorials - Feedback - FAQ - most asked questions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bojuto Posted December 11, 2020 Author Share Posted December 11, 2020 I agree with this comment. It's not Affinity that has affected. I have found even basic functions have slowed or become erratic eg changing users takes an age and sometimes fails. Catalina may well be the best answer for the time being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff MEB Posted December 11, 2020 Staff Share Posted December 11, 2020 13 hours ago, Pšenda said: Recently, there are a lot of questions and complaints about version 1.8.6 (Big Sur) on the forum, which could be expected due to the novelty of this technology. Wouldn't it be more sensible to release this "debug" version as a Beta, rather than as a release/main version that just makes a lot of problems for users? Hi Pšenda, We haven't made any changes from v1.8.4 to v1.8.6 other than provide the applications as a universal apps (so they can be installed on Intel and Apple silicon systems) and ensure macOS Big Sur compatibility. Feature wise they are basically the same. The issues we are seeing are mostly due to underlying changes introduced in Big Sur. It's not only our apps that are affected by these changes. Quote A Guide to Learning Affinity Software Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted December 11, 2020 Share Posted December 11, 2020 Hi MEB, I understand that you have not made any functional changes by porting to the new type of OS, and that most of the problems will be in the implementation of the OS itself, but by releasing this version (not as Beta) you may have prematurely made users feel that everything is fine and it is also fully functional. I just remember the problems clearly resulting from the errors in the WIN update (KB4517389 ???), which the users then blamed on you. Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff MEB Posted December 11, 2020 Staff Share Posted December 11, 2020 I see your point. To be honest, we weren't expecting such issues due to an OS update, usually things tend to go a lot smoother but i guess this time there were more substantial changes under the hood and we are now seeing some reports related with macOS Big Sur and Apple M1 systems specifically - they aren't as much as the number or reports may suggest, a lot of them refer to the same problems - nonetheless we are working to fix these as fast as we can. Pšenda 1 Quote A Guide to Learning Affinity Software Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3Dshark Posted February 2, 2021 Share Posted February 2, 2021 I'd been holding off to upgrade to Big Sur until now and didn't come across this thread until too late (after updating). It's always a punt upgrading too soon to a new Apple OS. Designer, Photo and Publisher take an absolute age to open the first time, not quite going to grab a coffee but certainly no way near as nippy (almost instant on Catalina). Admittedly it IS faster once it's been opened the first time. It's frustrating as all my other software is speedy, but I use Designer on a daily basis. Is there any timeframe on when / if this is going to be fixed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azguy Posted February 5, 2021 Share Posted February 5, 2021 Same issue here. Version 1.9 of Affinity Photo takes over 30 seconds to load on an 2019 i7 iMac with 64 gb of ram. Same problem with an i7 2019 16 inch MBP with 32gb ram. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
v_kyr Posted February 6, 2021 Share Posted February 6, 2021 Well not just for Big Sur, on my old El Capitan it also takes at least twice the time now to start up. Due to fat binaries and libs (universal binaries and their sizes) and Apple signature verification, the whole start-up process got's very slowly. Quote ☛ Affinity Designer 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Photo 1.10.8 ◆ Affinity Publisher 1.10.8 ◆ OSX El Capitan ☛ Affinity V2.3 apps ◆ MacOS Sonoma 14.2 ◆ iPad OS 17.2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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