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No problem, I'm just curious:

When I open Designer and create a new file, the empty file is about 1.3MB large when I save it.

When I open Photo and create a new file with the same dimensions, open the file instantly in Designer and save it as *.afdesign, the file is under 100KB large - more than 10 times less.

I don't understand this. Is there any explanaition for this huge difference?

Thanks!

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ADesigner (Windows), New document (A4, 300 DPI, RGB/8, sRGB, no transparent background), file size = 7436 Byte (no kB or MB).

Document with transparent background = 6348 B.

Unset Save thumbnails with document in Preferences, file size is 5500 B.

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I get pretty much the same figures on Windows 10 as Pšenda above:
* Designer, A4, 300DPI, RGB/8, no transparent background = 7447 bytes (size on disk slightly larger);
* Designer, A4, 300DPI, RGB/8, with transparent background = 6367 bytes (size on disk slightly larger).
(Changing the document dimensions or DPI doesn’t make much difference – e.g. Designer, A0, 400DPI, RGB/8, no transparent background = 7411 bytes.)
Would you be able to attach your large file so we (and, probably more importantly, the developers) can look at it?

a4-300dpi-rgb8-no-transparent-background.afdesign a0-400dpi-rgb8-no-transparent-background.afdesign a4-300dpi-rgb8-with-transparent-background.afdesign

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Attached some example files.
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35 minutes ago, GarryP said:

Changing the document dimensions or DPI doesn’t make much difference

There is probably no reason for that - vector/numerically defined parameters are still the same.
A bigger and expected difference is the presence/absence of thumbnails, or the transparent/non-transparent background contained in the given thumbnail, which is an embedded standard PNG, the content of which, of course, changes according to the content and transparency of the document. For a blank/new document, it is only the transparency that affects its size.

Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301
Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155.
Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155.
Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130.

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I didn’t think it would make any difference but I did a little test and reported the result anyway, so that other people didn’t need to.

It will be interesting to find out why the OP’s document is so large in comparison to ours.
I did a few more quick tests – CMYK/8, Save with History, etc. – and cannot get a totally blank document, which has not been given any layers, to be more than around 7K in size.

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Thanks for supplying the document.

Interesting.
The document:
* has no Symbols;
* has no Snapshots;
* has no Saved History;
* has no Slices (except the default one);
* has no Navigator Presets;
* has no extra Colour Palettes;
* doesn’t have masses of Text Styles;
* takes up the same space on disk after a Save As.

I’ve no idea what’s gone ‘wrong’ here but I could be overlooking something obvious.
Hopefully someone else can find what has happened.

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Maybe you could try resetting the application (start with Ctrl).

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Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155.
Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155.
Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130.

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The same problem has recently started on my Mac - empty new Affinity document saves as approximately 1.4 MB.

I wonder why this has happened to all of my Affinity apps since they do not share settings - current retail and beta of AD, AP and APub.

 

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2 hours ago, anon2 said:

The same problem has recently started on my Mac - empty new Affinity document saves as approximately 1.4 MB.

I wonder why this has happened to all of my Affinity apps since they do not share settings - current retail and beta of AD, AP and APub.

What OS version are you running on your Mac?

All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7
Affinity Photo 
1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7

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