toniclife Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 No problem, I'm just curious: When I open Designer and create a new file, the empty file is about 1.3MB large when I save it. When I open Photo and create a new file with the same dimensions, open the file instantly in Designer and save it as *.afdesign, the file is under 100KB large - more than 10 times less. I don't understand this. Is there any explanaition for this huge difference? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted November 25, 2020 Share Posted November 25, 2020 ADesigner (Windows), New document (A4, 300 DPI, RGB/8, sRGB, no transparent background), file size = 7436 Byte (no kB or MB). Document with transparent background = 6348 B. Unset Save thumbnails with document in Preferences, file size is 5500 B. Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 (edited) I get pretty much the same figures on Windows 10 as Pšenda above: * Designer, A4, 300DPI, RGB/8, no transparent background = 7447 bytes (size on disk slightly larger); * Designer, A4, 300DPI, RGB/8, with transparent background = 6367 bytes (size on disk slightly larger). (Changing the document dimensions or DPI doesn’t make much difference – e.g. Designer, A0, 400DPI, RGB/8, no transparent background = 7411 bytes.) Would you be able to attach your large file so we (and, probably more importantly, the developers) can look at it? a4-300dpi-rgb8-no-transparent-background.afdesign a0-400dpi-rgb8-no-transparent-background.afdesign a4-300dpi-rgb8-with-transparent-background.afdesign Edited November 26, 2020 by GarryP Attached some example files. Old Bruce 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 35 minutes ago, GarryP said: Changing the document dimensions or DPI doesn’t make much difference There is probably no reason for that - vector/numerically defined parameters are still the same. A bigger and expected difference is the presence/absence of thumbnails, or the transparent/non-transparent background contained in the given thumbnail, which is an embedded standard PNG, the content of which, of course, changes according to the content and transparency of the document. For a blank/new document, it is only the transparency that affects its size. Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted November 26, 2020 Share Posted November 26, 2020 I didn’t think it would make any difference but I did a little test and reported the result anyway, so that other people didn’t need to. It will be interesting to find out why the OP’s document is so large in comparison to ours. I did a few more quick tests – CMYK/8, Save with History, etc. – and cannot get a totally blank document, which has not been given any layers, to be more than around 7K in size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toniclife Posted November 26, 2020 Author Share Posted November 26, 2020 All right, this seems to be no common issue. Here is a document I just created (AD 1.8.5703 on Win 10 Home 64 Bit). Test-Empty-Document.afdesign Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toniclife Posted November 26, 2020 Author Share Posted November 26, 2020 PS: Thanks for all the answers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Thanks for supplying the document. Interesting. The document: * has no Symbols; * has no Snapshots; * has no Saved History; * has no Slices (except the default one); * has no Navigator Presets; * has no extra Colour Palettes; * doesn’t have masses of Text Styles; * takes up the same space on disk after a Save As. I’ve no idea what’s gone ‘wrong’ here but I could be overlooking something obvious. Hopefully someone else can find what has happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Maybe you could try resetting the application (start with Ctrl). toniclife 1 Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toniclife Posted November 27, 2020 Author Share Posted November 27, 2020 Okay, I will check tomorrow. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toniclife Posted November 27, 2020 Author Share Posted November 27, 2020 Great, resetting worked! Thank you very much! Pšenda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lepr Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 The same problem has recently started on my Mac - empty new Affinity document saves as approximately 1.4 MB. I wonder why this has happened to all of my Affinity apps since they do not share settings - current retail and beta of AD, AP and APub. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 2 hours ago, anon2 said: The same problem has recently started on my Mac - empty new Affinity document saves as approximately 1.4 MB. I wonder why this has happened to all of my Affinity apps since they do not share settings - current retail and beta of AD, AP and APub. What OS version are you running on your Mac? Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.5.5 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 All 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lepr Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 10 minutes ago, R C-R said: What OS version are you running on your Mac? 10.13.6 which I've been running for over a year, but the 1.4 MB Affinity document minimum size only started recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xloulou Posted November 30, 2020 Share Posted November 30, 2020 Hello. Possible in photo to make modifications without developing, closing and reopening and finding the modifications as in dxo, rawtherapee, ... the software just saves a history file Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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