Nested picture frame from master page disappears when image is placed in it

[tillulen]

Steps to reproduce:

1. Create a document with a master page.
2. On the master page, create two picture frames at the same coordinates.
3. Using the Layers panel, drag one picture frame into the other so that it becomes the other frame’s content.
4. If you are using the attached file, start here.
5. On a regular document page, select the inner picture frame using the Layers panel.
6. Place an image into the inner picture frame.

Expected: the image would be placed.

Actual result: the inner picture frame disappears from the Layers panel as if it was deleted. Only the outer picture frame remains. The image is not placed on the page. The image is not found in the Resource Manager.

This is Publisher 1.8.5.703 on Windows 10.

I have a use case for using nested picture frames in a publication, so this is not just a weird corner case. I would like to use the inner picture frame to manually crop and rotate an original image and the outer frame to automatically fine-tune its dimensions to my grid as I’m experimenting with different grids and layouts. In that scenario, the inner frames would have scaling turned off and the outer frames would be set to Scale to Maximum Fit.

Nested picture frames on master page.afpub

[walt.farrell]

Thanks for including a description of your use-case.

[Gabe]

Hi @tillulen,

I think you will be better off using constraints. You have much more control over content inside a container than you have using a picture frame within a picture frame. 

Regardless, the disappearing frame is a bug. 

[tillulen]

Hi @Gabe. Thanks for the quick response.

I’m already using constraints both with constraints groups and picture frames, but I’m by no means proficient with constraints yet. Is there any reason why I should prefer a constraints group with a single child to a picture frame? It looks like they are mostly interchangeable when the child is a regular object (not a raw image).

Anyway, the bug also occurs when I use a constraints group instead of the outer picture frame. The inner picture frame within the group disappears as soon as I try to place something into it. Please let me know if you need a sample file for that case.

[Gabe]

16 hours ago, tillulen said:

Anyway, the bug also occurs when I use a constraints group instead of the outer picture frame. The inner picture frame within the group disappears as soon as I try to place something into it. Please let me know if you need a sample file for that case.

Yes please. it seems to be fine here with this set-up:

[tillulen]

19 hours ago, Gabe said:

Yes please. it seems to be fine here with this set-up:

Weird, I cannot reproduce it now. It probably was some mistake on my part.