How are people setting a font in master pages for incoming text?

[Affinity-Inspiration]

Came across this interesting question. How do I set up a font in a Master page so that when I Place or import text into a set of pages, autoflow them etc, regardless of what font the incoming text is in the Master page setting with change it to what is needed by the Master page.

I can setup Styles and modify text once it's imported. I can set the Style or Base font in the Master so that when I type text in, it's in the font I want.

I can cause Publisher to default to a particular font.

But can't see if it's possible to import a document and have it convert to the font set in the Master style.

I can see that it should be possible, but not how to do it.

or, to put it another way, I can set up a "default" font in the Master-A. 

Add a Page and begin typing. It shows as the correct font as set in the Master.

but...

Place text from an external file and it comes in as what ever it was set to in Word for example. It doesn't update to the Master-A font.

If I then Apply Master-A to all pages, it makes no difference. The font type doesn't change to the default set in Master A.

Edit: my point being that a master page should be able to set/change whatever is on a “page” to match its settings. Including its fonts.

Edited November 10, 2020 by HarryMcGovern
Clarification

[walt.farrell]

I think you will need to:

1. Place the file into the text frame on the first document page. Then

2. Click in the text frame and then select all the text in that story (Ctrl+A or Cmd+A). Then

3. Set the font you want.

[Affinity-Inspiration]

38 minutes ago, walt.farrell said:

I think you will need to:

1. Place the file into the text frame on the first document page. Then

2. Click in the text frame and then select all the text in that story (Ctrl+A or Cmd+A). Then

3. Set the font you want.

Thanks. Yes I can do that. I'm looking for a way to have the font change without my intervention. But I guess it can't be. But thanks.

[walt.farrell]

12 minutes ago, HarryMcGovern said:

Thanks. Yes I can do that. I'm looking for a way to have the font change without my intervention. But I guess it can't be. But thanks.

It's kind of a catch-22. Every text frame has a font specified, but usually a user would want the fonts specified in the imported file to be preserved. So for the usual case the text frame font must be overridden.

To get what you want there would need to be a new option when importing the file, kind of like Paste Without Formatting.

Or, from your other program, you could export as plain text, and paste that into your text frame.

[Petar Petrenko]

Pitty that Publisher doesn't have something like [Basic Paragraph] as InDesign. It does just what you want.

[walt.farrell]

56 minutes ago, Petar Petrenko said:

Pitty that Publisher doesn't have something like [Basic Paragraph] as InDesign. It does just what you want.

What does it do, and how is it different from Body?

[Petar Petrenko]

The text being placed is automatically formated with this style. And it is editable as any other style.

[Fixx]

4 hours ago, walt.farrell said:

It's kind of a catch-22. Every text frame has a font specified, but usually a user would want the fonts specified in the imported file to be preserved

No, usually user would like to replace text attributes with a style of his own.

I am not used having text frame to set text style. Text Style is seldom (never?) a property of container (text frame). At least I do not know any app to behave so.

In ID Basic Paragraph sets text style automatically, but it is not very hard to select all and set style manually. Depends of course how small bits you place.

[thomaso]

4 hours ago, Petar Petrenko said:

Pitty that Publisher doesn't have something like [Basic Paragraph] as InDesign. It does just what you want.

Doesn't [No Style] work similar?

Unfortunately Affinity does not enable a Text Style Editor window for [No Style], so it requires a cumbersome workaround via Synchronise / Save Defaults to get [No Style] formatted as desired. And I wonder if a custom [No Style] formatting can indeed be saved with the document, especially if the .afpub gets opened on a different computer (= different APub installation).

[Affinity-Inspiration]

I think I have it working. Publisher is so simple that I continue to miss things right under my nose looking for some difficult way to get an end result.

I set up a document with a Master Page. Master A. Placed a Text Frame into it. A blank text frame. Ignoring what ever the default font is.

With Master-A selected with the Blue bar around it. Create a New Character Style, by selecting the drop down arrow and selecting New Style just under the no-style entry.

Within that window that pups up, set up what ever you want your new document base font to be for Master-A. I did the same for the Paragraph Style. So now I have two entires for non-fiction text. Character and Paragraph.

Remembering that what ever you put into Master A affects the entire document where pages are based on Master-A for example.

Imported my Word document, that came in in what ever font attributes I had it set to. Autoflowed into the document.

All pages in the document are based on Master-A.

Now, double clicking on the Master to reselect it caused it to be reapplied to the content pages and the font was updated to the Master-A font. Throughout the document.

 

 

 

[Petar Petrenko]

18 hours ago, thomaso said:

Doesn't [No Style] work similar?

[No Style]  resets all paragraph (and character 😩) formatings.
[Basic Paragraph] immediatelly formats placed text.

[walt.farrell]

21 hours ago, Petar Petrenko said:

The text being placed is automatically formated with this style. And it is editable as any other style.

So the equivalent in Publisher is the Body paragraph text style.

[Petar Petrenko]

2 hours ago, walt.farrell said:

So the equivalent in Publisher is the Body paragraph text style.

There is no equivalent of InDesign's [Body Paragraph] in Publisher. [Body Paragraph] is part of InDesign. All other paragraph styles are created by user. No one user defined paragraph style can have the function of [Basic Paragraph].

[Horizon3]

I know post is old for 2 years nearly, but I am wishing to do what @HarryMcGovern did. It not work for me. Did someone also try this and it work? Here. I show all screenshots of actions I do. 

On 11/11/2020 at 6:51 AM, HarryMcGovern said:

I set up a document with a Master Page. Master A. Placed a Text Frame into it. A blank text frame. Ignoring what ever the default font is.

Here I do:

 

On 11/11/2020 at 6:51 AM, HarryMcGovern said:

With Master-A selected with the Blue bar around it. Create a New Character Style, by selecting the drop down arrow and selecting New Style just under the no-style entry.

 

here I do:

 

On 11/11/2020 at 6:51 AM, HarryMcGovern said:

Within that window that pups up, set up what ever you want your new document base font to be for Master-A. I did the same for the Paragraph Style. So now I have two entires for non-fiction text. Character and Paragraph.

 

Mine:

 

 

 

 

On 11/11/2020 at 6:51 AM, HarryMcGovern said:

Imported my Word document, that came in in what ever font attributes I had it set to. Autoflowed into the document.

All pages in the document are based on Master-A.

 

Here I do this:

 

On 11/11/2020 at 6:51 AM, HarryMcGovern said:

Now, double clicking on the Master to reselect it caused it to be reapplied to the content pages and the font was updated to the Master-A font. Throughout the document.

 

Here I do this, but nothing happen. Text is same as from imported document (Calibri, 11 pt). 

 

 

Can some please tell to me what I do wrong? I will appreciate it. Maybe this not possible to do in Apub V.2.1.1 ?

[Catshill]

This is how I preserve italic and bold on imported text.

Other posts on this thread may be of help too.

[Petar Petrenko]

4 hours ago, Horizon3 said:

Can some please tell to me what I do wrong? I will appreciate it. Maybe this not possible to do in Apub V.2.1.1 ?

The purpose of master pages is not what you did. Their purpose is to show object(s) you put on them on document pages to which you have assigned a master page.

If you want to change the font in a document (imported or not), you can do that by applying paragraph or character style on selected portion of text.

[anto]

5 hours ago, Horizon3 said:

Can some please tell to me what I do wrong?

Try to select the text in Word and copy it. Go to Publisher, place the cursor in the text frame, and click Paste without format.

[Horizon3]

@Catshill. Thank you for this. I read post and try what you suggested. What you do not works for me for some reason. APub keeps italics and bold, but not change the font to font in body paragraph style. Keeps font from Word file. Maybe I do something wrong. I try this again and same thing happen. BTW how to know please which styles import from Word? I know usu. look for Normal style and delete, but how to know what other styles import from Word? They not different colour or anything from other - default or user create - paragraph styles. 

 

@Petar Petrenko Okay thank you for this. So what @HarryMcGovern do is not possible? How he make APub to do this then is what I try to understand. 

 

@anto Thank you for this. This work. I knew how do this what you said but I wished to do what @HarryMcGovern do because it seem faster for when you have long text to import. I'm understanding from @HarryMcGovern instructions you can skip over copy/paste without format and just import with Apub apply character & paragraph style you want for whole document. Maybe no. 

Everyone thank you for reply and suggestions.