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47 minutes ago, Carlos NZ said:

Until Adobes decides that sparkle is not in their future plans anymore. I use www.wocode.com for websites, it is a seriously web design builder probably the best out there.

 

5 minutes ago, haakoo said:

As opposed to wysiwygwebbuilder there's a linux/mac/win version https://www.quickandeasywebbuilder.com/download.html

My criteria for choosing Sparkle was that it does not require a subscription or annual fee. There's so many options and I would say that the various opinions and software mentions are all valid. Whatever works best for each. I just wanted to make sure that I never get into a situation like Muse.

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I mentioned in my last post that I was indeed impressed by the update. However, from my own perspective, the vast majority of these changes will not be affecting my art workflow. Meanwhile Affinity Photo is getting more add-on support in the form of Lazy Nezumi Pro that has recently added Windows Ink support for Photo and other softwares like Krita. Bear in mind that this has long been a Photoshop exclusive add-on with the capability to hook up to any software with limitations, so seeing it evolve beyond Adobe is actually pretty exciting for many artists out there (even for all you Krita fans! :D). This will help a lot in my workflow and it shows that Affinity is actually progressing into becoming more recognised as an alternative to Photoshop.

 

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On 11/2/2020 at 12:19 AM, AlejandroJ said:

Some arguments seem to be reaching kind of an aggressive and disrespectful level.
CLC, we don’t have a socialist government, and if it interests you, I have not voted for the party which is now in power in my country. So I don’t see which is the point that you are trying to make with what you have said.
So,...... you are suggesting that our country and others (if it would be the case), should (ought to) support businesses from a firm (Adobe) of a foreign country? Interesting way or thinking. I bought Affinity when it was half its price plus 35 %, still less than its usual price.

Anyway, some of us are way out of what this forum is for. So this will be my last intervention regarding this topic, no matter what. And I apologize to everybody for allowing myself to be driven by some comments that I read throughout this thread and that shocked me a bit

Saludos desde Centroamerica , aquí es exactamente igual.

I have lived long enough on both sides to know this. Yes our pay is lower but we have to pay double for anything imported and still make a living. I am also old enough to know that we can't influence this in any manner. But I feel for any person who gets upset  by 'well it is only 500 dollars' because we have to work a month after basic expenses for that.
Hence, yes, I do support the smaller business. May they live and thrive and write code for real world photographers.

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On 10/30/2020 at 12:08 PM, kaffeeundsalz said:

Thanks @awado, that was what I was thinking, too when I read the changelog for Photoshop 2021. Most of the new features don‘t seem to be targeted to Adobe‘s core audience. For example, who, among professionals, needs a dedicated sky replacement tool given that there are established techniques for this kind of work? And while the new algorithmic face manipulation effects sure are fun to play with, I agree that they need a lot of manual finishing work. Just look at what these tools do to people with glasses for example. And wouldn‘t professionals make sure that models get their face expressions right in the first place? And yes, at least some of the new features do seem like a confession that Serif got some things quite right that Adobe did not so far, like the new interactive shapes.

BTW, this is not supposed to be a Photoshop rant. I use Affinity Photo as well as Adobe Photoshop and both applications have their strengths. It’s just that I really wondered where the widespread acclaim for Photoshop‘s new 2021 features comes from since I wouldn‘t rate most of them a real productivity boost for professional work.

thank you for telling me.. I recently received some emails from Luminar advertising very similar things. As a long term photographer and small time designer I was appalled by these 'features'. Most photo websites are these days flooded with impossible skies, impossible skin etc. Not to speak of a macho idea of woman's bodies.
I still have CS5 which doesn't need upgrading or subscription. The only nuisance is it doesn't work so nicely with newer plugins, but still does Silverefex and exposure.

Have to say that between Affinity, Exposure which has involved into a proper editing tool and Fast Raw viewer to do the sorting I hardly use PS now.

I did once try to subscribe. it was 10$ and they did not inform the local taxes. But boy was I p..d off when they near on instantly wanted to download a huge upgrade. Well in CR 4 GB of internet is about 20 USD on top of the subscription and you couldn't opt to have only parts of it. So I unsubscribed very fast and then had 2 months struggle to get the money back.

Never, Ever again. and they can put their sky replacement together with Luminar back to some intoxicated dream, I can live without it.
 

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I don't understand how they're not ashamed to release such a product. I pay for programs like Photoshop, work time, and others. I don't care if it costs $30 or $500, I expect it to work... such a nightmare.

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On 11/4/2020 at 11:22 AM, anita said:

thank you for telling me.. I recently received some emails from Luminar advertising very similar things. As a long term photographer and small time designer I was appalled by these 'features'. Most photo websites are these days flooded with impossible skies, impossible skin etc. Not to speak of a macho idea of woman's bodies.
I still have CS5 which doesn't need upgrading or subscription. The only nuisance is it doesn't work so nicely with newer plugins, but still does Silverefex and exposure.

Have to say that between Affinity, Exposure which has involved into a proper editing tool and Fast Raw viewer to do the sorting I hardly use PS now.

I did once try to subscribe. it was 10$ and they did not inform the local taxes. But boy was I p..d off when they near on instantly wanted to download a huge upgrade. Well in CR 4 GB of internet is about 20 USD on top of the subscription and you couldn't opt to have only parts of it. So I unsubscribed very fast and then had 2 months struggle to get the money back.

Never, Ever again. and they can put their sky replacement together with Luminar back to some intoxicated dream, I can live without it.
 

You mentioned Luminar anita, I am getting a refund for the Luminar 4.....omg that is the slowest bit of software I have ever used and I wouldn't recommend it to anybody

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