Affinity Publisher: TOC

[Pyanepsion]

Hello,

I have created a title corresponding to level 1 called "Chapitre", and a title corresponding to level 2 called "Module".

How can I set up these titles or the table of contents so that the order is correctly respected? This is not the case in the attached file..

Thank you for your explanations.

 

toc.afpub

[walt.farrell]

I am away from my computer, so I cannot examine your file right now.

However, the order in the TOC is controlled by:

1. The page order (headings on Page 1 come before headings on Page 2.

2. Next, for headings on the same page and in the same text frame, the heading that occurs earlier on the frame appears before the heading that occurs later in the frame.

3. Finally, for headings on the same page but in different text frames, headings on the frame that is lower in the layer stack appear before headings on a frame that is higher in the layer stack. Think of it like painting. If you make a stroke and then make a stroke on top of it, the stroke that is on top came later. The same happens with the TOC and the layer order. (This also happens with exporting Artboards to a PDF in Designer; the ones lower in the layer stack are exported first.)

[Old Bruce]

You would be better served by putting the headings Chapitre and Module in the main text flow and using the Decorations in the Text Styles to make the text have a background colour Green or Orange.

Aside: Just trying to reorder the text frames is giving me a 'wrong' result and hurting. my brain.

[Old Bruce]

I am not sure if it matters but you should have expanded the Filler Text, I am having problems working with it. Filler Text does not behave as actual text does.

[Pyanepsion]

10 hours ago, Old Bruce said:

You would be better served by putting the headings Chapitre and Module in the main text flow

The rounded edge of the level II title (Module) cannot be made with the decorations.

10 hours ago, Old Bruce said:

I am not sure if it matters but you should have expanded the Filler Text,

I wanted to produce here an example of titling with text frame type objects placed in front of the normal text.

10 hours ago, walt.farrell said:

3. […] headings on the frame that is lower in the layer stack appear before headings on a frame that is higher in the layer stack.

It was this notion that I didn't know. This corrected my problem. Thank you.

Here is another example with level I headings (Chapitre) embedded in the text stream, and level II headings (Module) in objects.  We can see that there is a problem in the table of contents when there is a mix between title in the flow of the text (Chapitre), and title in a text frame (Module).

toc.afpub

[GarryP]

Neither of the files you attached open for me with 1.8.5.703 as they seem to have been created in a later (non-commercial release) version.
If you are using the latest beta then it might be best if you post problems with that version of the software in the relevant beta forums. That way, problems with beta versions don’t ‘pollute’ the questions and answers about the commercial releases. (For example, a fix given for a beta problem may not be valid for the later commercial release and could confuse future readers of the thread.)

[Murfee]

2 hours ago, Pyanepsion said:

Here is another example with level I headings (Chapitre) embedded in the text stream, and level II headings (Module) in objects.  We can see that there is a problem in the table of contents when there is a mix between title in the flow of the text (Chapitre), and title in a text frame (Module).

Hi Pyanepsion, if you select the Module layers and then Pin to the text your TOC will be in the correct order.

Hi @GarryP, it is not a beta specific problem. The file was created in a beta but the question is relevant to the release. I have recreated the file in the release version to avoid any further confusion, this file has the module layers pinned.

Toc - Release Version.afpub

 

 

 

[GarryP]

I didn’t know if the issue was beta-specific or not.
All I was suggesting was that issues which come up when using a beta – whether they are known to be beta-specific issues or not – should, in my opinion, be posted in the beta forums. If the issue is then found not to be beta-specific then the thread can be moved to another more-relevant forum. This helps to keep the beta issues away from the commercial release issues and can better shield people from finding ‘fixes’ to beta issues that have no relevance to the non-beta software.

[Pyanepsion]

6 hours ago, GarryP said:

If you are using the latest beta

The initial file was created with the commercial version and then checked with the beta version.

4 hours ago, Murfee said:

if you select the Module layers and then Pin to the text your TOC will be in the correct order.

Well done. And it also solves the problem of spacing before and after the paragraph. Thank you, Murfee.