Publisher - Inside Text Frame Setting

[Ami_M]

Hello!

I was hoping for some advice regarding the use of the 'Inside' text frame setting.

Is it possible to apply this setting on an object to only one text box? I have 3 objects on my page which need to have text inside them, but they interact with each other and push the text out of place.

Could I apply the setting for one object to one text frame only?

Ami

[Joachim_L]

A bit clueless right now. Does one text frame pushes the text away of another text frame? Are text wrap options assigned to the text frames/boxes? Maybe a screenshot would be of help or if this does not help the APu file.

[Ami_M]

I always forget to put the file up, thanks @Joachim_L!

Here it is - GROUP 1 contains a shape which has inside it some text, Group 2 is currently far enough away that it doesn't affect it, but when I move it any closer the setting for the shape in GROUP 2 affect the text in GROUP 1. I hope that makes more sense.

Ami

Help File.afpub

[Joachim_L]

Both germ images groups are set to text wrap inside so they naturally affect each other and push away the text. Easiest approach in my opinion would be to rebuild the germs as vector shapes as they are not too complicated shapes, turn the shapes into text frames and put the text inside. But perhaps someone has a better idea?

[Ami_M]

@Joachim_L Thank you so much for taking a look. I will give that a go!

[thomaso]

Since the rectangular bounding boxes of both text/illu groups are overlapping AND because there is no option to connect/limit text wrap to certain objects:

To avoid overlapping it will work if you crop the wrapping boxes by reducing the wrapping outline to its relevant area: Delete those nodes in the illustration's "arms" which aren't used for text wrap (+ repeat it for the other influencing wrap object):

[Ami_M]

@thomaso Thank you so much! That makes perfect sense and has worked spot on! I really, really appreciate you taking the time to do that for me! I'll know what's going on next time 😁

[Joachim_L]

Nice and good idea @thomaso, but I would always prefer the vector shape way, because with the vector shape I can control more easily the inset (in below case 2 mm).

[thomaso]

2 minutes ago, Joachim_L said:

I would always prefer the vector shape way, because with the vector shape I can control more easily the inset (in below case 2 mm).

Sounds you mean to draw a text frame in the wanted shape? Yes, this is also an option and does not affect other objects at all – and it doesn't need text wrapping at all. But it does require extra drawing work (text wrapping was invented to avoid this;) which can become a bit much if you have a lot of germs and viruses in your layout, for example.

Note that the wrapping outline is always a vector shape - regardless of the object type used (bitmap or vector shape) - with which the inset can be refined, either for all 4 directions or for each one individually.

By the way: another option is to copy the wrapping outline and use it as text frame – which wouldn't work here because of the rotation, but maybe desired in another situation:

 

[walt.farrell]

4 hours ago, thomaso said:

which wouldn't work here because of the rotation, but maybe desired in another situation:

It would work if you reset the bounding box's rotation, wouldn't it? Just select it and Add it to itself (I'm away from my computer, but that might be Layer > Geometry > Add, or the Add icon on the Toolbar.)