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I used edit channels to clean up a mask for this image.  Thought perhaps this might be the problem but tried what I am describing on another image with the same outcome.  

It seems that latest beta will move to Tone Mapping but then doesn’t work. Also  tried without success to change from rgb(16) to rgb(8) and rgb HDR (32) that was very dawgy.  Video is long but fast forward past the saving issue to see that although it saved transparent, was able to use history to recoup the image.  Included whole screen capture to show the length of time the process took.  

 

 

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14 minutes ago, p_mac said:

I used edit channels to clean up a mask for this image.  Thought perhaps this might be the problem but tried what I am describing on another image with the same outcome.  

It seems that latest beta will move to Tone Mapping but then doesn’t work. Also  tried without success to change from rgb(16) to rgb(8) and rgb HDR (32) that was very dawgy.  Video is long but fast forward past the saving issue to see that although it saved transparent, was able to use history to recoup the image.  Included whole screen capture to show the length of time the process took.  

 

 

 


I have also seen these transparent canvas turn up using other tools as well, maybe this is something to do with the metal changes to try and support Windows better. Also I’ve had screen jumping around too.

 

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I’m seeing this too. Something broken for sure but it’s a significant beta combined with a significant iOS change so this is not surprising and will no doubt be addressed soon.😃

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4 hours ago, Chris B said:

Are you all still seeing this? I can't seem to trigger it. 

Position of image in a stack of layers had an effect. Ok when top image used. shown in another post but same issue. Note presets are blank too?

 

 

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8 hours ago, Chris B said:

Are you all still seeing this? I can't seem to trigger it. 

Hi Chris, I’ve now updated to iPadOS 14.0.1 and have been experimenting with this issue on two different images.  I have noted something that may be of help

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Videos of two different images show what is different

 

 

And now this, using this is reverse.

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Just noticed something else, 

The Histogram shows up when you have the merged layer and all the layers that were merger active when applying Tone Mapping, but

look what happen when the only active layer is the merged laye when applying Tone Mapping, no histograms.  

This occurs in both images and shows this in both of the above videos 

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Also here. With Tone Mapping, Compression slider acts as an Opacity control.
 

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Also problem here with latest beta. With Tone Mapping, no image.

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45 minutes ago, DM1 said:

Also problem here with latest beta. With Tone Mapping, no image

Hey DM1

You will notice in my comments and videos that there are two issue that I am describing.  If I do a merge visible and leave the merged layers active, when I go into Tone Mapping, it doesn’t produces a transparent image, and there is a histogram.  If you deactivate those layers that were merged, there is a transparent image and no histogram.  The underlying layers should not play a role in the Tone Mapping but for some reason they continue to be active and seem to define the tone mapped image colour composition.  

The image that is uncovered in the split screen seems to be the original image that was sent over from Photo Persona and the visible image with the histogram attached if from the images below.

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10 hours ago, p_mac said:

The image that is uncovered in the split screen seems to be the original image

I think it’s got something to do with the compression causing opacity to go to zero. You get to see the layer below. Try two images, one above the other and both active. You only see the top one. Now tone map the top layer. Result is you now see the lower layer!
Use same image and use black/white filter on bottom one. This shows the effect quite clearly.

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2 hours ago, Chris B said:

Thanks. I want to give some time to this so will take a proper look as soon as I can.

Here screen vid showing effect with one and two layers as described above. Same image but lower layer has black /white filter added. Tone map top (colour layer) to show layer below (black/white image). With bottom image hidden, tone map is see through. Opacity appears to be. 0%?

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On 9/29/2020 at 6:22 PM, Chris B said:

Thanks. I want to give some time to this so will take a proper look as soon as I can.

Hi Chris, have you had any luck replicating this issue. Happens every time for me.? 

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Same here, selecting "Tone Map" Persona creates an empty image. iPadOS 14.2 beta 2.

Seems to be related to the problem here.

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