Suggested translation workflow?

[Lutz Pietschker]

I am a translator and want to switch from Indesign to AP - more important, I want to offer my customers an alternative. The only translation-related thread I found assumed a very special workflow without the use of CAT software.

In most cases, our current workflow is:

1. Export INDD to IDML
2. Import IDML into CAT software (in my case, Wordfast Pro)
3. Translate
4. Create translated IDML
5. Return IDML to customer & import

This is by no means a smooth process, mainly due to IDML idiosyncrasies, but it works, sort of and with lots of grumbling involved on both sides, but we mainly use it for lack of anything better. Trying to say that this would be a domain where it would not be too hard to do better than the competition.

Now my question is: What workflow do you propose if a customer would switch from Indesign to AP? The technical snag is that most CAT tools cannot read proprietary binary files, they need some sort of (Unicode) text file, usually some "…ML" format, and I do not see that changing anytime soon. In fact, I think it is the best solution, see below.

As of 1.8.4 AP does not even have a text export format, it seems, let alone any exchange format that preserves formatting and layout and which could be re-imported into AP after the translation. The real problem, of course, is not the main "story" but the numerous text snippets flying around in "loose" text frames and artistic text. But even the main story becomes a problem if I have lots of inline symbols etc.

IMHO a solution would need to involve a text export format, and pure XML would be preferable to any "adapted" format because otherwise I would be at the mercy of the CAT provider to provide an import filter for your format. Since I work mainly on print documents I would prefer an intermediate format that preserves page integrity as much as possible (because all editing, checking, reviewing etc. follows the page paradigm); with page integrity I mean that the elements follow the geometry of the layout (as opposed to, for example, time of creation, moon phases or whatever IDML seems to use). I am on the fence about the question whether the main story should be broken into pages, preferably this would be an export option rather than a fixed setting (what works best depends very much on the type of document, more precisely on the relative importance of text content to graphical design - think "laws" vs. "flyers").

What are Serif's thoughts and plans on this sort of workflow?

[MOM]

Can you please advise if and when you are planning to offer XML export/import to allow AP to be used with CAT tools? Thank you.

[HPB]

This option is much needed, nobody needs brochures, manuals and catalogs only in one language in the world of today.

That such a powerful suite as Affinity has not resolved this is astonishing.

 

[HPB]

Export a standard file format to allow translation is an absolute must for such a software. We are living in global and globalized world and all documentation has to be served multlilingual by law. If you have professional ambitions with your suite this is a MUST.

[JoeItaly]

Hello,

I reached this page as I am searching info on the best workflow for translations of Affinity Publisher files.

I find it a bit strange that the thread appears to stop, with no response, on this important subject matter.

A seamless import/export feature to/from xliff, xml or idml is a must. I did not find info on this in your web site.

Regards,

Joe

 

[Lutz Pietschker]

Believe me, I am disappointed as well. So far I refrain to speculate what the reason could be, but certainly Serif seems to give this nil priority. This kills AP for me as a professional tool. In my realm (brochures, rulebooks) the need to translate is a given for any job, even if the author does not know it yet.

[Lutz Pietschker]

More than 2 years have passed, and no reaction – I guess we may rely on it that we will not see any such function in the affinity ecosystem. Quite disappointing.