Spelmann Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 When using the Intuos 4 tablet under AD 1.8.4, a brush stroke appears far from the cursor. I had to install the previous version 1.8.3 again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulferry79 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 (edited) My Wacom Intuos 4 has also stopped working correctly since the 1.8.4 update (this is true for both Designer and Photo). On Windows 10. I've needed to reinstall 1.8.3 and that works correctly. * Cannot paint in raster mode - if painting on the empty space to the left of the canvas I can sometimes see strokes appearing in the canvas area which are far from the cursor. * Can select some UI as normal but other UI is not selectable - the body and stroke colours at the base of the Tools panel for example no longer select easily Edited August 4, 2020 by paulferry79 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liv R Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Since downloading the 1.8.4 update earlier today I cannot select or do anything other than move the cursor around the screen to hover over things with my Wacom Intuos Pro M . I can't even close the program unless I use the touch screen or laptop mouse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ingram Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Questions for those affected: Do you have "Mouse Mode" enabled? Do you have custom mapping regions setup? Do you have Windows Ink enabled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulferry79 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 My Intuos 4 settings are set to the following: Pen Mode Mapping is to Monitor 1 Windows Ink is enabled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ingram Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 1 hour ago, paulferry79 said: My Intuos 4 settings are set to the following: Pen Mode Mapping is to Monitor 1 Windows Ink is enabled Can you disable Windows Ink, and try again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulferry79 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 I tried disabling Windows Ink on the Intuos 4 - no success. Interestingly when the tablet's mapping is set to full (both monitors) the tablet behaves as it should. Problem is I need it mapped to just the one screen so that the aspect ratio of the working area roughly matches the drawing tablet itself. Mark Ingram 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angstyboy Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 It might also matter if your dpi in windows is set to anything other than 100%? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulferry79 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Hi Angstyboy. If by Windows dpi you mean the Scale and Layout under Display Settings it is set to 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angstyboy Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 20 hours ago, paulferry79 said: Hi Angstyboy. If by Windows dpi you mean the Scale and Layout under Display Settings it is set to 100% Yes, that setting. There are websites and apps that actually screw up the coordinate mapping of the tablet to screen when you have it set other than 100% actually, so I asked. With 100% setting, the problem is definitely with AD, not with Wacom. Have you tried the "--legacy wintab " 'solution'? See here: paulferry79 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulferry79 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 Thanks. Wasn't aware of that so I tried the " --legacy-wintab" solution and seemed to work initially - I can draw accurately and choose the body and stroke colours on the Tools panel. But resizing the brush using the Alt plus stylus button press & slide left / right doesn't work (It also didn't work before the " --legacy-wintab" was added but worked in 1.8.3). I only had a quick test so not sure if other things won't be working too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ingram Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, paulferry79 said: Thanks. Wasn't aware of that so I tried the " --legacy-wintab" solution and seemed to work initially - I can draw accurately and choose the body and stroke colours on the Tools panel. But resizing the brush using the Alt plus stylus button press & slide left / right doesn't work (It also didn't work before the " --legacy-wintab" was added but worked in 1.8.3). I only had a quick test so not sure if other things won't be working too. They shortcut has changed in 1.8.4 to be Ctrl+Alt to make it easier to use for pen users. paulferry79 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulferry79 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 That would explain it... yeah that does the trick then! Okay, fingers crossed this is all sorted for now. Many thanks Mark and Angstyboy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jowday Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Mark Ingram said: They shortcut has changed in 1.8.4 to be Ctrl+Alt to make it easier to use for pen users. Also removed a lot of muscle strain from mouse users so thank you for that fix. SKT7 and Mark Ingram 2 Quote "The user interface is supposed to work for me - I am not supposed to work for the user interface." Computer-, operating system- and software agnostic; I am a result oriented professional. Look for a fanboy somewhere else. “When a wise man points at the moon the imbecile examines the finger.” ― Confucius Not an Affinity user og forum user anymore. The software continued to disappoint and not deliver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angstyboy Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 18 hours ago, paulferry79 said: That would explain it... yeah that does the trick then! Okay, fingers crossed this is all sorted for now. Many thanks Mark and Angstyboy! Yeah, it works... for now. As it's a 'workaround' developers will sooner or later tire of 'legacy' hardware and backwards compatibility, and this feature will be lost. I wish I knew what the actual problem is and what hardware the new 1.8.4 tablet implementation works with as intended? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKT7 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 21 hours ago, Mark Ingram said: They shortcut has changed in 1.8.4 to be Ctrl+Alt to make it easier to use for pen users. Thanks a lot for this, the shortcut to change brush size for Window was horrible. Really appreciate the change. Jowday 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jowday Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 9 minutes ago, saikat said: Thanks a lot for this, the shortcut to change brush size for Window was horrible. Really appreciate the change. Indeed. Using both mouse buttons at the same time is also clumsy. Imagine asking soccer players to kick the ball with both legs simultaniously! SKT7 1 Quote "The user interface is supposed to work for me - I am not supposed to work for the user interface." Computer-, operating system- and software agnostic; I am a result oriented professional. Look for a fanboy somewhere else. “When a wise man points at the moon the imbecile examines the finger.” ― Confucius Not an Affinity user og forum user anymore. The software continued to disappoint and not deliver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKT7 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 17 hours ago, Angstyboy said: Yeah, it works... for now. As it's a 'workaround' developers will sooner or later tire of 'legacy' hardware and backwards compatibility, and this feature will be lost. I wish I knew what the actual problem is and what hardware the new 1.8.4 tablet implementation works with as intended? It would be sad that I may have to retire my 2005 Wacom Intuos 2 6x8 for the lack of software support even though it still works flawlessly! Hope the 'legacy' hardware support continues for some time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InfinityTrapdoor Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 I'm having the same problem. None of the solution discussed here help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ingram Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 On 8/8/2020 at 10:30 AM, saikat said: It would be sad that I may have to retire my 2005 Wacom Intuos 2 6x8 for the lack of software support even though it still works flawlessly! Hope the 'legacy' hardware support continues for some time "Legacy" in the --legacy-wintab command line flag context refers to our legacy implementation (the low precision input data), not the hardware itself, though I appreciate that may be ambiguous. In the future we're going to add a preference item that will allow you to choose between: High precision input (the current default, not compatible with mouse mode, and some tablet devices such as XP Pen). Low precision input (how we previously received data, in 1.8.3 and before). Windows Ink input (for users who prefer this mode). Hope that clears things up. Angstyboy and SKT7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKT7 Posted August 10, 2020 Share Posted August 10, 2020 41 minutes ago, Mark Ingram said: "Legacy" in the --legacy-wintab command line flag context refers to our legacy implementation (the low precision input data), not the hardware itself, though I appreciate that may be ambiguous. In the future we're going to add a preference item that will allow you to choose between: High precision input (the current default, not compatible with mouse mode, and some tablet devices such as XP Pen). Low precision input (how we previously received data, in 1.8.3 and before). Windows Ink input (for users who prefer this mode). Hope that clears things up. Thank you Mark for the clarification. Really appreciate it. Glad to know that the older tablets can still be used in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ingram Posted August 13, 2020 Share Posted August 13, 2020 Hi everyone, thanks for your patience. In the latest customer beta (1.8.5.703) we have changed the default tablet input method to be the Low Precision mode, the same as in 1.8.3, and added a new Preferences option that allows users to opt-in to High Precision or Windows Ink modes. If you would like to check it out, the details are here: Angstyboy and paulferry79 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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