thomaso Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 1 hour ago, anon2 said: My suspicion is that the Isometric panel should not be available in AP, and the bug is that it can be coerced into appearing in AP. I am afraid to assume this, too. It reminds me to the Symbol Panel which has been available in previous Beta APubs and still was available when app updates did not offer it any more. 28 minutes ago, R C-R said: If that is true, then perhaps the Grid & Axis Manager either should not be available in AP as well, or at least not allow the creation of isometric grids that allow creating plane sets that can be used with them? Nope. I can use the grid and its snapping for manually drawn items – without access to the Isometric Panel. The marketing idea may be to teas the feature and to make appetite to buy AD. Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 2 minutes ago, thomaso said: Nope. I can use the grid and its snapping for manually drawn items – without access to the Isometric Panel. But can you change planes, like to change which plane to fit a shape to or rotate it in that plane without access to that panel? Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaso Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, R C-R said: But can you change planes, like to change which plane to fit a shape to or rotate it in that plane without access to that panel? Sort of, extremely cumbersome, by adjusting in the Axis Manager Window. Just enough to yearn for more 😜 Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 5 minutes ago, thomaso said: Sort of, extremely cumbersome, by adjusting in the Axis Manager Window. Just enough to yearn for more 😜 How can you change planes to fit a shape to in that window? Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaso Posted August 1, 2020 Share Posted August 1, 2020 That's why I said "extremely cumbersome": it's rather manually simulating it by drawing pen tool nodes with snapping or changing the grid angles. Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Chris B Posted August 3, 2020 Staff Share Posted August 3, 2020 This should not be available in Affinity Photo I'm afraid Nice catch @belief-begin-conjoin Quote How to format a bug report | Learning Resources | List of V2 FAQs | YouTube Tutorials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Chris B said: This should not be available in Affinity Photo I'm afraid Why not? Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clive185 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Just now, R C-R said: Why not? @Chris B @R C-R Exactly my thought ! How can you offer Grids and the ability to create isometric grids in the exact same way as designer, but then not give the isometric panel. Does not make sense at all. It's the equivalent of me buying a new car, and the guy saying " Yes your car comes with air conditioning, but unfortunately you can only switch it on if you purchase our other model"... Pšenda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Chris B Posted August 3, 2020 Staff Share Posted August 3, 2020 29 minutes ago, R C-R said: Why not? Because that's what the developers said. Quote How to format a bug report | Learning Resources | List of V2 FAQs | YouTube Tutorials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Chris B Posted August 3, 2020 Staff Share Posted August 3, 2020 36 minutes ago, Clive185 said: @Chris B @R C-R Exactly my thought ! How can you offer Grids and the ability to create isometric grids in the exact same way as designer, but then not give the isometric panel. Does not make sense at all. It's the equivalent of me buying a new car, and the guy saying " Yes your car comes with air conditioning, but unfortunately you can only switch it on if you purchase our other model"... Isometric drawing isn't really needed in Affinity Photo which is primarily for photo editing, developing and touch-ups. It's a Designer feature but I'm guessing the grid in Affinity Photo is more of a visual aid than a 'feature'. Quote How to format a bug report | Learning Resources | List of V2 FAQs | YouTube Tutorials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaso Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 3 hours ago, Chris B said: This should not be available in Affinity Photo I'm afraid 3 minutes ago, Chris B said: Isometric drawing isn't really needed in Affinity Photo which is primarily for photo editing, developing and touch-ups. It's a Designer feature but I'm guessing the grid in Affinity Photo is more of a visual aid than a 'feature'. @Chris B, how about APub? I agree to your "visual add" hint. Having such a grid (+ snapping) can be helpful of cause even without the extra Isometric Panel for more 3D automatism. @Clive185, in APub this grid is rather like a car without electronic air condition but the option to open windows & roof. Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Chris B said: Isometric drawing isn't really needed in Affinity Photo which is primarily for photo editing, developing and touch-ups. It's a Designer feature but I'm guessing the grid in Affinity Photo is more of a visual aid than a 'feature'. In AP isometric grids could be used as visual or snapping aids. Granted, this would not be a feature usable in every workflow but because AP also supports a fairly extensive set of vector shapes plus the unique ability to convert a shape to a mask or selection, surely this could be useful in some of the more creative workflows some AP users could dream up? Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 45 minutes ago, R C-R said: could dream up? Dreams are a good thing, but in this case they can be fulfilled very easily - buy AD 🙂 Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 4 hours ago, Pšenda said: Dreams are a good thing, but in this case they can be fulfilled very easily - buy AD 🙂 If it includes converting a shape to a selection, how could that be done in AD? Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 1 hour ago, R C-R said: If it includes converting a shape to a selection, how could that be done in AD? "Edit in..."? Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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