Artsketch Posted July 25, 2020 Share Posted July 25, 2020 Sorry, but will the blob issue at the beginning of a stroke with pixel brushes on iPad be ever solved? Especially the ink brushes. I tried to change all parameters but there isn’t any workaround. If this bug remains and further ignored the only option will be a 1 star AppStore rating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Dan C Posted July 27, 2020 Staff Share Posted July 27, 2020 Hi @Artsketch, I'm very sorry to hear you feel this way - this is something our developers are aware of and I'll be sure to bump the report with our development team. Unfortunately I don't have an update to provide on this issue currently, my apologies. Quote Please note - I am currently out of the office for a short while whilst recovering from surgery (nothing serious!), therefore will not be available on the Forums during this time. Should you require a response from the team in a thread I have previously replied in - please Create a New Thread and our team will be sure to reply as soon as possible. Many thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artsketch Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 Hi Dan C, it is really serious, no customer so far accepted work created exclusively in Affinity Designer and Photo because of the pixel brush blobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markio Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Hi @Artsketch, Do you have a small sample, I am curious how that looks. I think I know what you are talking about. When using vector brushes I get annoying hooks, I can sort of workaround those by using a short rope stabilizer. But it doesn't work great. And just tried it for the pixel brush a short rope stabilizer sort of solves the blobs, I think. BUT drawing gets more 'viscous' (couldn't think of a better word). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artsketch Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 20 minutes ago, Markio said: Hi @Artsketch, Do you have a small sample, I am curious how that looks. I think I know what you are talking about. When using vector brushes I get annoying hooks, I can sort of workaround those by using a short rope stabilizer. But it doesn't work great. And just tried it for the pixel brush a short rope stabilizer sort of solves the blobs, I think. BUT drawing gets more 'viscous' (couldn't think of a better word). Markio 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AffinityMakesMeSad Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 2 hours ago, Artsketch said: When I tested this my line is perfect... If this occur, and you are using Apple Pencil with dynamics, I think the problem is more related to Apple internal software for the Pencil then Affinity Photo itself... When your Pencil landing in the surface it get recorded a higher pressure then the acual line (if your blobs are at the beginning?)... I can simulate this (start-blobs), but I never gotten any blobs at the end of the line when tested Ink brushes... Paul Mudditt 1 Quote Happy amateur that playing around with the Affinity Suite - really love typograhics, photographing, colors & forms, AND, Synthesizers! Macbook Pro 16” M1 2021, iPad Pro 12.9” M1 2021, iPad Pro 10.5” A10X 2017, iMac 27” 5K/i7 late 2015… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artsketch Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 1 hour ago, AffinityMakesMeSmile said: If this occur, and you are using Apple Pencil with dynamics, I think the problem is more related to Apple internal software for the Pencil then Affinity Photo itself... Sure this occurs with all brushes using Apple Pencil pressure sensitivity. Other apps on iPad using Apple Pencil pressure sensitivity like Photoshop, Fresco, Sketch, Concepts, Procreate, Sketch Book, Artstudio Pro, Art Set don’t have this blob issue. So it isn’t Apples fault. Markio 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Mudditt Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 5 hours ago, Artsketch said: Sure this occurs with all brushes using Apple Pencil pressure sensitivity. Other apps on iPad using Apple Pencil pressure sensitivity like Photoshop, Fresco, Sketch, Concepts, Procreate, Sketch Book, Artstudio Pro, Art Set don’t have this blob issue. So it isn’t Apples fault. I’ve seen mentions of this loads of time in these forums but am I the only person who has never seen this behaviour with Apple Pencil in Photo or Designer. I have first generation on first generation 9.7” iPad Pro. Is there a specific brush you have to use to get this error? Quote My dad always told me, a bad workman always blames their tools…. Just waiting for Ronny Pickering….. Affinity Photo, Designer, Publisher 1.10 and 2.4 on macOS Sonoma 14 on M1 Mac Mini 16GB 1TB Affinity Photo, Designer, Publisher 1.10 and 2.4 on Windows 10 Pro. Deceased Affinity Photo, Designer, Publisher 2.4 on M1 iPad Pro 11” on iPadOS 17.4 https://www.facebook.com/groups/AffinityForiPad https://www.facebook.com/groups/AffinityPhoto/ The hardest link to find https://affinity.help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artsketch Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 31 minutes ago, Paul Mudditt said: I’ve seen mentions of this loads of time in these forums but am I the only person who has never seen this behaviour with Apple Pencil in Photo or Designer. I have first generation on first generation 9.7” iPad Pro. Is there a specific brush you have to use to get this error? I’m using the iPad Pro 2018 12.9“. It occurs on all pressure variable pixel brushes. Some brushes on the picture are from the '"inks“ brushes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Mudditt Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Artsketch said: I’m using the iPad Pro 2018 12.9“. It occurs on all pressure variable pixel brushes. Some brushes on the picture are from the '"inks“ brushes. The only way I can do anything like that is if I loosen off the tip of the pencil, once I tighten it up it does not happen no matter what I do on my iPad, I wonder if other iPad’s have this problem. Quote My dad always told me, a bad workman always blames their tools…. Just waiting for Ronny Pickering….. Affinity Photo, Designer, Publisher 1.10 and 2.4 on macOS Sonoma 14 on M1 Mac Mini 16GB 1TB Affinity Photo, Designer, Publisher 1.10 and 2.4 on Windows 10 Pro. Deceased Affinity Photo, Designer, Publisher 2.4 on M1 iPad Pro 11” on iPadOS 17.4 https://www.facebook.com/groups/AffinityForiPad https://www.facebook.com/groups/AffinityPhoto/ The hardest link to find https://affinity.help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luovatone Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Hi, I can confirm that this serious Pressure Blob Bug problem only happen on iPads IOS and exists in both Affinity Photo & Affinity Designer. I attached a small video, which show how annoying it is and makes impossible to make clean dynamic lines. Brush Blob problem is not so obvious if you only paint or not use large scale brush size dynamics. I think that this same Pressure Blob problems is already squashed in Desktops versions of Affinity Products, but not IOS yet. BTW. There is a still canvas rotation problem when using flat shaped brush tip - Flat brush tip follows canvas rotation :( This makes canvas rotation useless when using anything other than perfectly round brushes. https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/92429-canvas-rotation-and-brush-nozzle-rotation-with-dynamics-angle-tilt-control-bug/ Reported this along long.. time ago. I really hope that these bugs get solved because these affects greatly to drawing experience. Sorry_But_Whats_About_The_Blob_Issue.mov Artsketch 1 Quote www.tonikasurinen.fiwww.facebook.com/tonikasurinenartistwww.instagram.com/tonikasurinenartistwww.artstation.com/artist/tonikasurinen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Mudditt Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Wow, I can hear a scraping noise on your video, hope your not using a screen protector? Quote My dad always told me, a bad workman always blames their tools…. Just waiting for Ronny Pickering….. Affinity Photo, Designer, Publisher 1.10 and 2.4 on macOS Sonoma 14 on M1 Mac Mini 16GB 1TB Affinity Photo, Designer, Publisher 1.10 and 2.4 on Windows 10 Pro. Deceased Affinity Photo, Designer, Publisher 2.4 on M1 iPad Pro 11” on iPadOS 17.4 https://www.facebook.com/groups/AffinityForiPad https://www.facebook.com/groups/AffinityPhoto/ The hardest link to find https://affinity.help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artsketch Posted July 28, 2020 Author Share Posted July 28, 2020 32 minutes ago, Paul Mudditt said: The only way I can do anything like that is if I loosen off the tip of the pencil, once I tighten it up it does not happen no matter what I do on my iPad, I wonder if other iPad’s have this problem. I already tried an iPad Pro 2020 and a second Pencil 2, iPad OS 13.6 and 14 Beta 3 without screen protector. No difference. On imported Photoshop brushes the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AffinityMakesMeSad Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Paul Mudditt said: I’ve seen mentions of this loads of time in these forums but am I the only person who has never seen this behaviour with Apple Pencil in Photo or Designer. I have first generation on first generation 9.7” iPad Pro. Is there a specific brush you have to use to get this error? You are not alone... My iPad Pro 12.9” 2020 edition and iPad Pro 10.5” 2017 doesn’t have this behavior... Both are on iPad OS14 beta 3 - two different Apple Pencils (gen 1+2)... Both on Affinity Photo 1.84.185 beta... Paul Mudditt 1 Quote Happy amateur that playing around with the Affinity Suite - really love typograhics, photographing, colors & forms, AND, Synthesizers! Macbook Pro 16” M1 2021, iPad Pro 12.9” M1 2021, iPad Pro 10.5” A10X 2017, iMac 27” 5K/i7 late 2015… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AffinityMakesMeSad Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 35 minutes ago, Artsketch said: I already tried an iPad Pro 2020 and a second Pencil 2, iPad OS 13.6 and 14 Beta 3 without screen protector. No difference. On imported Photoshop brushes the same. But, have you installed and tested latest beta? Quote Happy amateur that playing around with the Affinity Suite - really love typograhics, photographing, colors & forms, AND, Synthesizers! Macbook Pro 16” M1 2021, iPad Pro 12.9” M1 2021, iPad Pro 10.5” A10X 2017, iMac 27” 5K/i7 late 2015… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artsketch Posted July 29, 2020 Author Share Posted July 29, 2020 15 hours ago, AffinityMakesMeSmile said: But, have you installed and tested latest beta? Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artsketch Posted July 29, 2020 Author Share Posted July 29, 2020 16 hours ago, AffinityMakesMeSmile said: You are not alone... My iPad Pro 12.9” 2020 edition and iPad Pro 10.5” 2017 doesn’t have this behavior... Both are on iPad OS14 beta 3 - two different Apple Pencils (gen 1+2)... Both on Affinity Photo 1.84.185 beta... Then draw some strokes with these brushes and post an image here please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM1 Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 Photo beta. IMG_4431.MP4 Paul Mudditt 1 Quote M1 IPad Air 10.9/256GB lpadOS 17.1.1 Apple Pencil (2nd gen). Affinity Photo 1.10.5 Affinity Design 1.10.5 Affinity Publisher 2, Affinity Designer 2, Affinity Photo 2 and betas. Official Online iPad Help documents (multi-lingual) here: https://affinity.https://affinity.help/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AffinityMakesMeSad Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Artsketch said: Then draw some strokes with these brushes and post an image here please Just on the road just now, but I will post a screenshot and a video of that later today... Hold on... Quote Happy amateur that playing around with the Affinity Suite - really love typograhics, photographing, colors & forms, AND, Synthesizers! Macbook Pro 16” M1 2021, iPad Pro 12.9” M1 2021, iPad Pro 10.5” A10X 2017, iMac 27” 5K/i7 late 2015… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AffinityMakesMeSad Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 1 hour ago, DM1 said: Photo beta. IMG_4431.MP4 Intresting... @DM1 is one of the most trusted sources here on this forum, so, what’s the differences between my & Paul Muddits iPads? I make an video too later this day showing something else... Quote Happy amateur that playing around with the Affinity Suite - really love typograhics, photographing, colors & forms, AND, Synthesizers! Macbook Pro 16” M1 2021, iPad Pro 12.9” M1 2021, iPad Pro 10.5” A10X 2017, iMac 27” 5K/i7 late 2015… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AffinityMakesMeSad Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 1 hour ago, AffinityMakesMeSmile said: Intresting... @DM1 is one of the most trusted sources here on this forum, so, what’s the differences between my & Paul Muddits iPads? I make an video too later this day showing something else... Here it is, the video showing no blobs... iPad Pro 12.9” 2020 edition, iPadOS 14 beta 3, Affinity Photo beta 1.84.185... IMG_0146.MP4 Paul Mudditt 1 Quote Happy amateur that playing around with the Affinity Suite - really love typograhics, photographing, colors & forms, AND, Synthesizers! Macbook Pro 16” M1 2021, iPad Pro 12.9” M1 2021, iPad Pro 10.5” A10X 2017, iMac 27” 5K/i7 late 2015… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AffinityMakesMeSad Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 @Luovatone @Paul Mudditt @DM1 @Artsketch - What do think about the above video? Should be intresting to know what’s the differences between my setup and all you having this ”blob” issue when painting with pixel brushes into Affinity Photo/Designer on iPad? Any suggestions? Quote Happy amateur that playing around with the Affinity Suite - really love typograhics, photographing, colors & forms, AND, Synthesizers! Macbook Pro 16” M1 2021, iPad Pro 12.9” M1 2021, iPad Pro 10.5” A10X 2017, iMac 27” 5K/i7 late 2015… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artsketch Posted July 29, 2020 Author Share Posted July 29, 2020 Same iPad Pro, same Apple Pencil 2, no blobs: AffinityMakesMeSad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artsketch Posted July 29, 2020 Author Share Posted July 29, 2020 1 hour ago, AffinityMakesMeSmile said: @Luovatone @Paul Mudditt @DM1 @Artsketch - What do think about the above video? Should be intresting to know what’s the differences between my setup and all you having this ”blob” issue when painting with pixel brushes into Affinity Photo/Designer on iPad? Any suggestions? How is your global pressure curve? Your brush strokes don’t have much width variation at all. Try more pressure variation with higher brush width or zoom to make details visible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luovatone Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 Hi, here is another video clip about the Affinity's Brush engine Pressure Blob problem. (very slow video, sorry) There is also Clip Studio Paint demo with very same pressure dynamic profile. @AffinityMakesMeSmile - Please try to use more pressure dynamics with brushes and more global brush size. Because with some settings this problem is not so obvious, but it is still there hiding. I have tested this with latest Affinity Designer and Affinity Photo 1.8.3 with iPad Air 3, iPad mini 5, iPad Pro 12.9" (1st gen), iPad 2018 (6th gen) and all behave same. Thanks, and hopely this get fixed.... ..... soon. Sorry_But_Whats_About_The_Blob_Issue_2.mov Artsketch and AffinityMakesMeSad 2 Quote www.tonikasurinen.fiwww.facebook.com/tonikasurinenartistwww.instagram.com/tonikasurinenartistwww.artstation.com/artist/tonikasurinen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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