BlueSailing Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 I'm trying to configure a pdf so that it will have more visibility to search engines when posted online. I can put a ton of info in the Fields of the .afpub document, but it doesn't export in the PDF. When I export to the PDF formant, and then open the PDF in Affinity Publisher, there is no data in the Fields. Please advise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Try looking at the actual PDF if you want to see what's in it, rather than looking at what happens when you import it into Publisher again. I just set some Fields, and exported my .afpub file to PDF (For Export) and then opened it in Acrobat Reader, and got this: So, the information is getting into the PDF file. However, you're right that upon Opening the PDF, the data is not transferred from the PDF file to the Fields panel. I don't know if that's a bug, or if Serif would consider it a Feature Request. BlueSailing 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSailing Posted July 22, 2020 Author Share Posted July 22, 2020 I did try Acrobat and found the info. As long as I know it's there, I'm good. Thanks Walt! walt.farrell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 7 hours ago, walt.farrell said: However, you're right that upon Opening the PDF, the data is not transferred from the PDF file to the Fields panel. I don't know if that's a bug, or if Serif would consider it a Feature Request. Unfortunately, Affinity ignores Field information when importing/opening. walt.farrell 1 Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 4 hours ago, Pšenda said: Unfortunately, Affinity ignores Field information when importing/opening. Thanks. It's probably appropriate to ignore them when Importing (e.g., File > Place) but I think there are good arguments to be made for capturing them when Opening a PDF file. BlueSailing and Pšenda 2 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC: Desktop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad: iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 3 hours ago, walt.farrell said: It's probably appropriate to ignore them when Importing (e.g., File > Place) but I think there are good arguments to be made for capturing them when Opening a PDF file. As can be seen from the linked thread, Serif has not yet commented on whether this is an intention or a mistake. I agree with you that it's okay with Place - if every placed document changed Field information, it would be a mess. However, in the case of an Open document, there is no reason why its Field information should not be taken over. BlueSailing 1 Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 If Serif ever decides for this to happen, they need it to be optional. Hopefully in preferences or the last choice sticky. BlueSailing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 6 hours ago, MikeW said: If Serif ever decides for this to happen, Do you mean retrieving Fields information from an Open pdf file? Just for interest, what is the reason why I shouldn't want to load the information stored in the Open File? If I want to change them, I can do it - it doesn't matter if something has loaded, I still have to enter it again. Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 17 minutes ago, Pšenda said: Do you mean retrieving Fields information from an Open pdf file? Just for interest, what is the reason why I shouldn't want to load the information stored in the Open File? If I want to change them, I can do it - it doesn't matter if something has loaded, I still have to enter it again. I may open more than one and not in a specific order. Should they update with only the first? Each one? But regardless, I do know that unless I was the author of the PDF, the info is going to change in all likelihood (well, even if I was the author probably). If one needs/has to change the info, what's the purpose of loading it in the first place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 13 minutes ago, MikeW said: I may open more than one and not in a specific order. And what is the problem? If I Open (not Place) one/more documents, they are still separate documents with their separate Fields information. If I Open (not Place) a PDF document, then mostly to make some editing/correction in it, and then preserving the original Fields information is essential, or I take/copy some text/object from it, and then I'm not interested in the loaded Fields information (so let them load) - my Fields information is already in my working/target document. Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 And, so what exactly is wrong with having an option? Would not an option suit everyone? As regards opening to correct verbiage or images, I'll use the original files. Editing a pdf for any sort of correction requires more work and involves an element of risk. But regardless... I never fill out document information. So I would not desire to have to remove/delete that information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 7 hours ago, MikeW said: And, so what exactly is wrong with having an option? Would not an option suit everyone? If I noticed so, no one, not even me, questions the appropriateness of setting/customizing the behavior of the application. I was just wondering why not to retrieve Fields information from an Open Document, as any text editor (Word type) does. How do you deal with them? Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeW Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 Oh, ok. I'm not sure I understand the question. Other than my own use of Word, for which I don't care what MickySoft puts into the author field, the Word files I receive go into a layout application and the metadata isn't transferred. Why would I want that information? I understand the single use point you mentioned regarding an edit of a pdf, but is that the only use case? Like I wrote, I don't need it, I don't want it. I don't care what Serif pre-fills APub's fields with (i.e. I'm not going to bother removing it). But I would prefer they don't even do that. Pšenda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted July 23, 2020 Share Posted July 23, 2020 2 hours ago, MikeW said: Like I wrote, I don't need it, I don't want it. I don't care what Serif pre-fills APub's fields with (i.e. I'm not going to bother removing it). But I would prefer they don't even do that. I am not sure about the other fields but in APub if you set the Author field with no document open, that will become the default for new documents. I set it to "me" but I think setting it to a space character also works, resulting in an empty Author field default. BlueSailing 1 Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSailing Posted July 23, 2020 Author Share Posted July 23, 2020 I love the fact that it prefills info. It acts almost like a template. If I'm writing a serires of pdfs they will always have my name as author and they'll all have the same list of tags, unless I change them. Love it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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