DavidDoesAffinity Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 A Photo on PC: I'm sure I'm missing something and search hasn't helped me. I make a gradient BG ie Blue to white on a diagonal. I want to modify it but the gradient wheel does not reember my last seeing or the setting on the layer I'm working on. Swearing at the screen has no effect. 🙄 What should I be doing so that I can modify my layer without starting the gradient from scratch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaso Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 It seems you need to apply the gradient to a vector object to keep it editable at later times. In case of applying to a pixel layer the current UI appears neither to recognize the applied gradient (gradient tool and/or move tool) nor to allow to change one of its colors only (gradient tool). This makes me wonder: The gradient's blue applied to the pixel layer appears different to the same values applied to the vector layer? For both the cmyk slider was used with 100c 50m, the document is AdobeRGB. • Any idea why or how this happens, and how to avoid it? DavidDoesAffinity 1 Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl123 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Layer > New Fill Layer Will allow you to apply and modify the gradient at will thomaso 1 Quote To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Bruce Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Sounds like this is a Pixel layer, you only get the one chance with those. What I do is make a rectangle and use the Gradient tool on that, that way it is editable later. You may eventually have to rasterize it. thomaso 1 Quote Mac Pro (Late 2013) Mac OS 12.7.4 Affinity Designer 2.4.0 | Affinity Photo 2.4.0 | Affinity Publisher 2.4.0 | Beta versions as they appear. I have never mastered color management, period, so I cannot help with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl123 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 17 minutes ago, Old Bruce said: Sounds like this is a Pixel layer, Fill Layers are special magical layers created by unicorns You can add a gradient to a Fill Layer, do some other stuff, then reselect the Fill Layer at any time and use the Gradient Tool to modify the previously created gradient DavidDoesAffinity, thomaso and Old Bruce 3 Quote To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaso Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 49 minutes ago, carl123 said: Layer > New Fill Layer Will allow you to apply and modify the gradient at will Great hint, thank you! I haven't even noticed this option before, since it doesn't show up in the Layers Panel interface, where already Mask, Adjustment, Effect, Live Filter, Group and Pixel got an icon + button. Any idea why in this "layer panel's toolbar" is no Fill Layer icon / button, too? Just forgotten – or is there a purpose or advantage not to have it there? Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl123 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 1 minute ago, thomaso said: Any idea why in this "layer panel's toolbar" is no Fill Layer icon / button, too? Just forgotten – or is there a purpose or advantage not to have it there? You will need to ask the unicorns thomaso and DavidDoesAffinity 2 Quote To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaso Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, carl123 said: You will need to ask the unicorns Are those lovely creatures responsible for the Fill Layer only – or would they also know why the UI makes me want to believe that here is no Fill applied yet to the selected pixel layer? : Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt.farrell Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 13 minutes ago, thomaso said: Are those lovely creatures responsible for the Fill Layer only – or would they also know why the UI makes me want to believe that here is no Fill applied yet to the selected pixel layer? : Pixel layers do not have a Fill. That's part of why they do not remember that they have a gradient, and what its settings are. If you apply a gradient to a pixel layer you replace its contents with pixels that look like the gradient. But they are not a Fill; they are simply the layer's pixels. thomaso 1 Quote -- Walt Designer, Photo, and Publisher V1 and V2 at latest retail and beta releases PC:    Desktop:  Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 64GB memory, AMD Ryzen 9 5900 12-Core @ 3.00 GHz, NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090   Laptop: Windows 11 Pro, version 23H2, 32GB memory, Intel Core i7-10750H @ 2.60GHz, Intel UHD Graphics Comet Lake GT2 and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070 Laptop GPU. iPad:  iPad Pro M1, 12.9": iPadOS 17.4.1, Apple Pencil 2, Magic Keyboard Mac: 2023 M2 MacBook Air 15", 16GB memory, macOS Sonoma 14.4.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl123 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Those pesky unicorns just mess with your mind sometimes  walt.farrell 1 Quote To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaso Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 20 minutes ago, walt.farrell said: Pixel layers do not have a Fill. That's part of why they do not remember that they have a gradient, and what its settings are. If you apply a gradient to a pixel layer you replace its contents with pixels that look like the gradient. But they are not a Fill; they are simply the layer's pixels. So the term "Fill" in Affinity is limited in its meaning to vector objects? – Unless the unicorns let me fill it with a bitmap, as in AD and APub ... Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidDoesAffinity Posted July 10, 2020 Author Share Posted July 10, 2020 Thank you all for the explanations...and also why I need to source a Unicorn or two. All I have to do is remember it, the next time I need to create a gradient in A Photo 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 22 minutes ago, DavidDoesAffinity said: Thank you all for the explanations...and also why I need to source a Unicorn or two. There’s a choice of two right here on these forums!   🦄 jmwellborn and DavidDoesAffinity 2 Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.4.1 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lacerto Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 (...) thomaso 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 18 minutes ago, Lagarto said: if you e.g. use C100 (other values zero): it is clearly G255 B255 Isn’t RGB(0,255,255) out of gamut for CMYK? Although we call it ‘cyan’ I don’t think we should expect it to look the same as CMYK(100,0,0,0). It’s the same the other way around: CMYK(0,100,100,0) is red, but it doesn’t necessarily look the same as RGB(255,0,0). Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.4.1 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Alfred Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Lagarto said: Yes, but that's the color that is clearly shows. It should not (and does not, if you use any other tool). I see what you mean now! Thanks for the clarification. Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.4.1 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaso Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 On 7/11/2020 at 12:22 PM, Lagarto said: Off the topic, but since asked, I think that you have found a bug. (...) Lagarto, thank's for claryfing. I reported it in the APh mac bugs. Â lacerto 1 Quote macOS 10.14.6 | MacBookPro Retina 15" | Eizo 27" | Affinity V1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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