Michail Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 It is about a (for me) very popular function. It is no longer possible to move a selection (e.g. a rectangle selection) during creation. I don't know when this stopped working but it has been like this for quite a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Chris B Posted July 10, 2020 Staff Share Posted July 10, 2020 Hi Michail, Are you dragging out the selection with the Rectangular Marquee Tool and then trying to drag the selection with the same tool still enabled? Can you record a video for me please? Quote How to format a bug report | Learning Resources | List of V2 FAQs | YouTube Tutorials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michail Posted July 10, 2020 Author Share Posted July 10, 2020 19 minutes ago, Chris B said: Are you dragging out the selection with the Rectangular Marquee Tool and then trying to drag the selection with the same tool still enabled? Can you record a video for me please? Thanks, @Chris B. Perhaps my question was not precise enough. I don't think we need a video. Try this: Create a rectangle selection (Don't let go of the mouse.). Press the space bar and keep dragging the mouse. Expected: The unfinished selection moves.Result: Nothing happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl123 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, Michail said: I don't think we need a video We need a video Why are you pressing the space bar? Quote To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michail Posted July 10, 2020 Author Share Posted July 10, 2020 14 minutes ago, carl123 said: We need a video Why are you pressing the space bar? A video doesn't make sense, @carl123, because nothing happens. I could make a video of me pressing the space bar 😎. The space bar allows you to move the selection if it is not yet complete. Try it in Photoshop and you'll know what I mean. It used to work in APh too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl123 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 To move a selection (marching ants) you just move your cursor inside the selection and move it, after you have drawn it. I don't ever remember it working differently Quote To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michail Posted July 10, 2020 Author Share Posted July 10, 2020 7 minutes ago, carl123 said: To move a selection (marching ants) you just move your cursor inside the selection and move it, after you have drawn it. I know ... 7 minutes ago, carl123 said: I don't ever remember it working differently I can't prove it ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl123 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 I just tried it in AP 1.7 and AP 1.6 and the space bar does nothing there as well But it would make a good feature request. i.e. To be able to move your initial selection, using the space bar, then continue dragging it out Quote To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Chris B Posted July 10, 2020 Staff Share Posted July 10, 2020 There is nothing on the info bar to suggest space does anything either. I'm not sure it ever has either to be honest. I think it would be a neat improvement though. Quote How to format a bug report | Learning Resources | List of V2 FAQs | YouTube Tutorials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aftemplate Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 This seems to be an interesting question... Quote The more restricted you put on the program, the closer you program is to idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Ingram Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 4 hours ago, Michail said: It is about a (for me) very popular function. It is no longer possible to move a selection (e.g. a rectangle selection) during creation. I don't know when this stopped working but it has been like this for quite a while. I've just tried this in 1.8.3 and it's working OK for me... * Drag a rectangle out * Hold spacebar * Move mouse, the new object moves position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl123 Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Mark Ingram said: Drag a rectangle out Yes, it works with a Rectangle (shape) But not a rectangular selection (marquee) which is what we are discussing here Isn't it ? Quote To save time I am currently using an automated AI to reply to some posts on this forum. If any of "my" posts are wrong or appear to be total b*ll*cks they are the ones generated by the AI. If correct they were probably mine. I apologise for any mistakes made by my AI - I'm sure it will improve with time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Chris B Posted July 10, 2020 Staff Share Posted July 10, 2020 1 minute ago, carl123 said: Yes, it works with a Rectangle (shape) But not a rectangular selection (marquee) which is what we are discussing here Isn't it ? That's what I thought 😅 Quote How to format a bug report | Learning Resources | List of V2 FAQs | YouTube Tutorials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Chris B Posted July 10, 2020 Staff Share Posted July 10, 2020 @Michail - please confirm if you mean a Rectangle Tool or a Rectangular Marquee selection. Quote How to format a bug report | Learning Resources | List of V2 FAQs | YouTube Tutorials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michail Posted July 10, 2020 Author Share Posted July 10, 2020 @Chris B - It's about selection tools Chris B 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Chris B Posted July 10, 2020 Staff Share Posted July 10, 2020 Thank you. Just trying to find out if this is a broken feature or has never been implemented. Michail 1 Quote How to format a bug report | Learning Resources | List of V2 FAQs | YouTube Tutorials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnobelix Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Hello @Michail, the selection can only be moved, if the New option is activated. Cheers Quote Affinity Photo 2.4: Affinity Photo 1.10.6: Affinity Designer 2.4: Affinity Designer 1.10.6: Affinity Publisher 2.4: Affinity Publisher 1.10.6: Windows 11 Pro (Version 23H2 Build (22631.3296) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
- S - Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 7 hours ago, Michail said: It is about a (for me) very popular function. It is no longer possible to move a selection (e.g. a rectangle selection) during creation. I don't know when this stopped working but it has been like this for quite a while. Quote Try this: Create a rectangle selection (Don't let go of the mouse.). Press the space bar and keep dragging the mouse. I don't think it has ever been like this in Affinity Photo. It works like this in Adobe Photoshop, but not in Affinity Photo. There have been quite a few feature requests over the years for it to work like this though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Chris B Posted July 13, 2020 Staff Share Posted July 13, 2020 Yes, we noticed it was possible in Photoshop. I found a few feature requests on the forum to so it does seem like it has never been a feature in Photo. Quote How to format a bug report | Learning Resources | List of V2 FAQs | YouTube Tutorials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michail Posted July 13, 2020 Author Share Posted July 13, 2020 56 minutes ago, Chris B said: Yes, we noticed it was possible in Photoshop. I found a few feature requests on the forum to so it does seem like it has never been a feature in Photo. Thanks a lot @Chris B and everybody, for the posts. It seems like I was just imagining it. I'm clearly working with too many different programs 🤔. Is it conceivable that this functionality will be implemented in the near future? There don't seem to be many people who know this feature (e.g. in PS), let alone miss it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Chris B Posted July 14, 2020 Staff Share Posted July 14, 2020 On 7/13/2020 at 10:50 AM, Michail said: Is it conceivable that this functionality will be implemented in the near future? I would not pin your hopes on it. There was a discussion on this and because we can move it once it has been dragged out, there isn't a general feeling that this needs to be changed so that we can mvoe it during an initial drag. Quote How to format a bug report | Learning Resources | List of V2 FAQs | YouTube Tutorials Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
- S - Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Chris B said: I would not pin your hopes on it. There was a discussion on this and because we can move it once it has been dragged out, there isn't a general feeling that this needs to be changed so that we can mvoe it during an initial drag. You end up with soft edges if you resize the marquee afterwards. You have to use the rectangle/ellipse tools instead. However, this means users have to use the rectangle/ellipse tools with 0% opacity fill, position it where it's required, change to 100% opacity fill, then either CTRL + click the thumbnail in the layers panel to get the selection, or use it as a vector mask directly. As a tool maker, if you want to make the marquee selection tools more usable, allowing spacebar to move the selection should also be possible. It should be possible for the user to zoom in close, align one part of the marquee selection tool using the spacebar, then dragging to expand the selection. Or in the case of selecting something like a pupil/iris of an eye, or wheels/tyres of a vehicle, switching between spacebar (to move) and dragging (to resize) a few times while keeping the left mouse button pressed. Using quick mask to resize selections is also prone to crashing. lepr, Alfred and Michail 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lepr Posted July 14, 2020 Share Posted July 14, 2020 1 hour ago, - S - said: You end up with soft edges if you resize the marquee afterwards. You have to use the rectangle/ellipse tools instead. However, this means users have to use the rectangle/ellipse tools with 0% opacity fill, position it where it's required, change to 100% opacity fill, then either CTRL + click the thumbnail in the layers panel to get the selection, or use it as a vector mask directly. As a tool maker, if you want to make the marquee selection tools more usable, allowing spacebar to move the selection should also be possible. It should be possible for the user to zoom in close, align one part of the marquee selection tool using the spacebar, then dragging to expand the selection. Or in the case of selecting something like a pupil/iris of an eye, or wheels/tyres of a vehicle, switching between spacebar (to move) and dragging (to resize) a few times while keeping the left mouse button pressed. You read my mind! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michail Posted July 14, 2020 Author Share Posted July 14, 2020 5 hours ago, Chris B said: ... and because we can move it once it has been dragged out, there isn't a general feeling that this needs to be changed so that we can mvoe it during an initial drag. This is not the same and not very efficient as an alternative. This becomes even clearer than with the rectangle selection when using the selection ellipse. Try creating an ellipse so that the size and position are correct - around a person's head, for example. You will not succeed. Size and/or position must be corrected later. To do this, you have to switch to mask mode in a cumbersome way and select a different tool. With the method I mentioned you could achieve the exact position and size right away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prophet Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 +1 for this. I was just working in Photo and my Photoshop muscle memory took over (as it often does) and it took me several moments to realize I hadn't gone crazy. Very handy and time saving for getting just the right selection without having to drop, move, add, subtract, redraw, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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