EeeTeeCee Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 I’ve been using Affinity Photo (current update) for iPad Pro (2020) for a few months now. I’ve been loving it. However, I may have to fully abandon it. I noticed today that the clone tool doesn’t duplicate the same sharpness as the original (targeted) pixels. I’m hoping I accidentally changed something in settings...but looked back on a few other recent projects, and see the same softer, blurrier clone stamps in those too. Wasted a lot of time, and now have to go back and fix these images in another app. Please tell me I can just adjust the settings, or that it’s a quick fix on the developer end... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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EeeTeeCee Posted June 28, 2020 Author Share Posted June 28, 2020 Sorry, but the more I’m playing with this, the more I’m finding. The softness is created once the cloned selection is moved (not resized, simply moved). I can recreate this every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etcetera Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Just reinstalled Affinity, made sure I had the latest update, etc... How has this issue not been resolved?? I’m stunned 😅 This is a beautiful app. Robust features. However, this issue is BAD and I have used free apps that don’t soften pixels when you copy/paste, use the clone tool, etc. Please fix! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, etcetera said: I have used free apps that don’t soften pixels when you copy/paste, use the clone tool, etc. Affinity Photo shouldn’t paste softened pixels unless you copied a feathered selection. Similarly, cloning should work as you expect if your brush has its hardness set to 100% and ‘Wet Edges’ is set off. Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.4.1 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etcetera Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 Adjusted my settings accordingly. Still seeing a softened copy of my selection. This is a bug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DM1 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 6 hours ago, Alfred said: Affinity Photo shouldn’t paste softened pixels unless you copied a feathered selection. Similarly, cloning should work as you expect if your brush has its hardness set to 100% and ‘Wet Edges’ is set off. Hi Alfred, It appears to not be able to clone Sharply at the pixel level? I have a one pixel grid and random pattern. Select a hard basic brush and adjust size to cover the pixel patten. Set clone point in middle of patten and tap to duplicate. The copy is quite fuzzy. Maybe something to do with snapping pixels? IMG_4491.MP4 Alfred 1 Quote M1 IPad Air 10.9/256GB lpadOS 17.1.1 Apple Pencil (2nd gen). Affinity Photo 1.10.5 Affinity Design 1.10.5 Affinity Publisher 2, Affinity Designer 2, Affinity Photo 2 and betas. Official Online iPad Help documents (multi-lingual) here: https://affinity.https://affinity.help/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlainP Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 I tried to replicate what you get and I couln't replicate it. Until I enabled "Force Pressure" when Hardness is low, then I got the same result. With "Force Pressure" disabled and Hardness set to 100 it works fine. Quote -- Window 11 - 32 gb - Intel I7 - 8700 - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 -- iPad Pro 2020 - 12,9 - 256 gb - Apple Pencil 2 -- iPad 9th gen 256 gb - Apple Pencil 1 -- Macbook Air 15" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM1 Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 1 hour ago, AlainP said: With "Force Pressure" disabled and Hardness set to 100 it works fine. @AlainP I'm not disputing what you say however you can see from my screen recording that in the context menu, Force Pressure is disabled and Hardness is set to 100%. Yet the issue remains? Perhaps it’s device dependent??? Quote M1 IPad Air 10.9/256GB lpadOS 17.1.1 Apple Pencil (2nd gen). Affinity Photo 1.10.5 Affinity Design 1.10.5 Affinity Publisher 2, Affinity Designer 2, Affinity Photo 2 and betas. Official Online iPad Help documents (multi-lingual) here: https://affinity.https://affinity.help/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 1 hour ago, AlainP said: With "Force Pressure" disabled and Hardness set to 100 it works fine. 2 minutes ago, DM1 said: @AlainP I'm not disputing what you say however you can see from my screen recording that in the context menu, Force Pressure is disabled and Hardness is set to 100%. Yet the issue remains? Perhaps it’s device dependent??? I get the same result as Dave showed in his video clip. It doesn’t seem to matter whether ‘Force Pressure’ is enabled or not. Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.4.1 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlainP Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 I just did the same tests this morning... in the beginning it was working fine. But now I also get fuzzy results.... I think it happend after I clicked on the "More" option at the bottom but did not change anything. Weird.... still testing... Quote -- Window 11 - 32 gb - Intel I7 - 8700 - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 -- iPad Pro 2020 - 12,9 - 256 gb - Apple Pencil 2 -- iPad 9th gen 256 gb - Apple Pencil 1 -- Macbook Air 15" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlainP Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 I'm sorry.... I was using the beta version. Did the same tests on the release version and get the same results. The more I play with it the worst it gets, pasted parts are now bigger than the source.... I have to take a break... DM1 1 Quote -- Window 11 - 32 gb - Intel I7 - 8700 - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 -- iPad Pro 2020 - 12,9 - 256 gb - Apple Pencil 2 -- iPad 9th gen 256 gb - Apple Pencil 1 -- Macbook Air 15" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM1 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 Hopefully mods will comment on this strange behaviour soon. 😀 Quote M1 IPad Air 10.9/256GB lpadOS 17.1.1 Apple Pencil (2nd gen). Affinity Photo 1.10.5 Affinity Design 1.10.5 Affinity Publisher 2, Affinity Designer 2, Affinity Photo 2 and betas. Official Online iPad Help documents (multi-lingual) here: https://affinity.https://affinity.help/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jowday Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 A test with 100% x 3 - obviously some anti-alias/softening going on. Photo 1.8.4, Windows 10 Professional. cloning.afphoto Quote "The user interface is supposed to work for me - I am not supposed to work for the user interface." Computer-, operating system- and software agnostic; I am a result oriented professional. Look for a fanboy somewhere else. “When a wise man points at the moon the imbecile examines the finger.” ― Confucius Not an Affinity user og forum user anymore. The software continued to disappoint and not deliver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM1 Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Jowday said: A test with 100% x 3 - obviously some anti-alias/softening going on. Photo 1.8.4, Windows 10 Professional. So, it’s not just iOS version. Maybe some setting in preferences effects it. Hard to know unless mods comment. Quote M1 IPad Air 10.9/256GB lpadOS 17.1.1 Apple Pencil (2nd gen). Affinity Photo 1.10.5 Affinity Design 1.10.5 Affinity Publisher 2, Affinity Designer 2, Affinity Photo 2 and betas. Official Online iPad Help documents (multi-lingual) here: https://affinity.https://affinity.help/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM1 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 On 8/6/2020 at 10:16 AM, DM1 said: Hi Alfred, It appears to not be able to clone Sharply at the pixel level? I have a one pixel grid and random pattern. Select a hard basic brush and adjust size to cover the pixel patten. Set clone point in middle of patten and tap to duplicate. The copy is quite fuzzy. Maybe something to do with snapping pixels? IMG_4491.MP4 @Gabe hi Gabe, this post seems to have fallen into the cracks. Could you, or one of the other mods comment on the blurring shown in the attached recording. You can clearly see blurring when cloning pixels. Hard brush, flow hardness and opacity all at.100%. Quote M1 IPad Air 10.9/256GB lpadOS 17.1.1 Apple Pencil (2nd gen). Affinity Photo 1.10.5 Affinity Design 1.10.5 Affinity Publisher 2, Affinity Designer 2, Affinity Photo 2 and betas. Official Online iPad Help documents (multi-lingual) here: https://affinity.https://affinity.help/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p_mac Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 I tried this in the last release of AP and found that the pixels were indeed soft. But then I did the same experiment in the latest beta version. The clone brush work extremely well, no soft pixels. Try this in the latest beta version and see how it works for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM1 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 2 hours ago, p_mac said: I tried this in the last release of AP and found that the pixels were indeed soft. But then I did the same experiment in the latest beta version. The clone brush work extremely well, no soft pixels. Not for me. Both soft. IMG_4588.MP4 IMG_4587.MP4 Quote M1 IPad Air 10.9/256GB lpadOS 17.1.1 Apple Pencil (2nd gen). Affinity Photo 1.10.5 Affinity Design 1.10.5 Affinity Publisher 2, Affinity Designer 2, Affinity Photo 2 and betas. Official Online iPad Help documents (multi-lingual) here: https://affinity.https://affinity.help/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM1 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 Humm. Turning on Force pixel alignment in Snapping seems to be the fix.😁 IMG_4589.MP4 Quote M1 IPad Air 10.9/256GB lpadOS 17.1.1 Apple Pencil (2nd gen). Affinity Photo 1.10.5 Affinity Design 1.10.5 Affinity Publisher 2, Affinity Designer 2, Affinity Photo 2 and betas. Official Online iPad Help documents (multi-lingual) here: https://affinity.https://affinity.help/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p_mac Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 (edited) So I had that on. But I also found that in ‘more’ the spacing was initially set to 15 so I also reset that to 1. I have also moved the cloned part without a problem. I turned snapping off and I still get a good clone. Edited August 29, 2020 by p_mac Added info Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM1 Posted August 29, 2020 Share Posted August 29, 2020 4 hours ago, p_mac said: I turned snapping off and I still get a good clone. Are you cloning at single pixel with pixel brush? Snapping off I get soft edges. Spacing has no effect at this size clone (for me)☹️ Quote M1 IPad Air 10.9/256GB lpadOS 17.1.1 Apple Pencil (2nd gen). Affinity Photo 1.10.5 Affinity Design 1.10.5 Affinity Publisher 2, Affinity Designer 2, Affinity Photo 2 and betas. Official Online iPad Help documents (multi-lingual) here: https://affinity.https://affinity.help/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p_mac Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 I am answering the problem as first described in the initial post by EeeTeeCee. I don’t spend my time in individual pixels but do see the softening when I have used the clone tool on the images that I am working on. Have actually also seen this problem for a few iterations. Along with this problem I also noted that the new clone is off level from the selected point. Has been very annoying. But I also learned something from this member that I was unaware of. As long as I am using a pixel layer for each clone, I can use the move tool to line up the clone. So thanks to EeeTeeCee for the lesson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Gabe Posted September 1, 2020 Staff Share Posted September 1, 2020 Hi all Thanks for the tag @DM1 Sorry for the delayed reply. Somehow this thread did not generate a ticket on our end, so we were not really aware of it. You would need to turn on Force Pixel Alignment in the Document > Snapping menu. DM1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etcetera Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 So...how is this still an issue? Do the developers actually look at this forum? This glitch is a deal breaker, and the fact that it's been ignored for six months is a JOKE. Seriously...what's going on, Affinity crew? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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