Publisher pdf exports and prints putting black hairline to RHS of images

[roadcone]

Hello and I hope you can help me with an oddity in Publisher. It appears to be placing a black vertical hairline to the right hand side of all my images.

It occurs on colour and B/W and on jpeg and png. It occurs whether the image is one I have taken on my camera or taken from the internet. The line is at the right edge of the image so where content goes to the edge, it is touching the content. Where the image is a closely cropped png with transparent background (where there are a few pixels of clear background around the image, the line appears slightly away from the content (but, of course, still on the edge of the transparent background). I have some old photos which I wish to display as in a photo album so I have obtained a single photo corner. I have processed the image to produce a png with a transparent background. I have then duplicated the image in Publisher and mirrored to produce one for each corner. Each corner has the vertical line to the right (so it cannot be an artefact of the image as the line would move with the mirroring).

The effect is not visible on the screen in Publisher but becomes apparent only on a pdf export. I have tried three ways; export using Publishers own facility, print to PDF using the Windows PDF printer and print to PDF using Softmaker's FreePDF printer. All three techniques display the problem. The effect is not visible on screen at normal viewing size but is immediately apparent when the pdf is printed to a laser printer at normal 2xA5=A4 landscape format.

The uploaded jpeg shows a screen grab from one of the photos page. It shows (almost) two of the photo corners. On the left of the image, the hairline can be seen clearly superimposed over the photo. On the right of the image you can see its 'buddy' stood away by a few pixels plus, a line above on the edge of the photo itself. This appears to be entirely predictable on all images, all types, all sources.

Mystified, but must find a solution ... can anyone help? I do have inter-column lines enabled for the text. Could this be having an impact? 

Regards

Clive

[Old Bruce]

14 minutes ago, roadcone said:

The uploaded jpeg shows a screen grab from one of the photos page.

It is not appearing here.

reduced size screen grab from my browser.

[roadcone]

Hrmff! I thought it had uploaded it rather than linked to it, so I removed it as the place is not my web space. It's back so should work now. Odd, it was showing on my computer. Too complicated for me!

Clive

 

[Old Bruce]

6 minutes ago, roadcone said:

Hrmff! I thought it had uploaded it rather than linked to it, so I removed it as the place is not my web space. It's back so should work now. Odd, it was showing on my computer. Too complicated for me!

Clive

 

I have done that a lot, I keep forgetting. Live and learn.

Regarding your problem with the lines I think the problem may be with the decorative corners, or how they are placed. Hard to tell without a file. Could you make a real simple one that demonstrates the problem and post it here?

[roadcone]

I will but it has nothing to do with the corners themselves as it occurs on all (and I mean all) graphics). Including graphics without decorative corners.

File New A4 - accept all default and press OK. They copy/paste from my troublesome document over to new document. Save. Print to MS PDF Printer. Zoom in a long way and the lines appear to the right of all images, with and without photo corners. As you will see, the two images in the centre are a pair grouped, each has its own line so the right-hand line for the left-hand image appears as though down the centre of the image pair. You'll see what I mean. And as I say, although you have to zoom a long way to see it on screen, a standard A4 laser print shows each one clearly.

Happy hunting.

Clive

Now ... how do I attach a file ... mmm

It won't let me upload a pdf '7' it says, contact us for assistance it says. I tried to rename it doc but that failed also.

untitled.afpub

[roadcone]

Last failed - has this? It ways it worked.

untitled.afpub

[roadcone]

This is maddening. It's not like I've got anything else to do on a Saturday night ... come to think of it ...

untitled.afpub

[roadcone]

rugbyramblers.org.uk/untitled.afpub

then

rugbyramblers.org.uk/untitled.pdf

bet that fails as they won't like urls in messages

 

[Old Bruce]

1 hour ago, roadcone said:

bet that fails as they won't like urls in messages

Worked, I think.

there is a bit of an edge to the corner images. And the PDF shows some sort of overlay effect from them too, yet when I export it I get no overlay. In the file from the rugby ramblers site they are just listed as (image) so I am curious about what sort of image they could be.

hmmm... now I can't load images. 

[roadcone]

I don't see the corner overlay in my original Publisher file, but when I copy/paste them into the one-page file I do. But as you say, they export as clear in the pdf. The four corners are png - originally greyscale, tweaked levels to get the black and white as extreme as possible, then select by colour (white) and delete, then export. They are grouped with the main image so ungroup them if you want.

[R C-R]

5 hours ago, roadcone said:

It won't let me upload a pdf '7' it says, contact us for assistance it says

FWIW, I have been seeing the same thing off & on today, & not just for PDFs -- at times I have been unable even to attach a small JPEG file to a post.

From time to time I also see posts with attached 'zero byte' Affinity files like the "untitled.afpub" file you attached to two of your posts. I think this is usually the result of yet another glitch in the forum software, as is when some of us can see attached image files & others cannot. (I can see the jpeg in your first post but apparently @Old Bruce cannot.)

These glitches seem to come in waves & there is nothing we can do about it other than wait or find some other way to reference content, like posting a link to some other site that behaves properly.

[roadcone]

I have gone back to the original AP file and deleted all graphic elements, irrespective of source. As expected, all the lines disappear (because they are attached to graphics/images).

I have gone into AD and found the logo I generated, then exported four versions, essentially the same but each png and jpeg, with and without background. In AP, used the image place tool to place each of the four. All four had lines to the RHS.

I went into AP and opened a large graphic which is designed to bleed over the edges. I exported it as full-sized png without background. When I imported it into AP using Image Place, it was wider than the page (as expected) so I left it wider to bleed. I exported the file to pdf and the resultant graphic goes to the edge of the page, but the height of the image is slightly greater than the content on the RHS and with a transparent background. On the RHS the line is visible. So, the export process appears to have cropped the image to the page width (as it should) but added a line. Bear in mind that I have exported/printed using three techniques so it is not likely to be a pdf printer action (in my view) but some artefact that AP is adding or causing.

[roadcone]

I seem to be the only one reading this ... at least, I am now the only one replying to it.

I now have a text frame with a hairline to the right. There is a photo in that column and the photo is the full width of the column. The hairline extends above and below the image to the full extent of the text frame. This is becoming critical for me. What is supposed to be a core feature is failing - I can live with hairlines on straight-edged photos if I have to (I can put them in an intentional frame if I have to) but I have graphics that are either on a white background (with a dark hairline to one side) or graphics that are not straight.

I've even tried the electronic equivalent of Tippex - a white line over where the hairline is - didn't work (and yes, I sent the tippex to the front and the image to the back).

At this rate I shall have to revert to Scribus - not as elegant to look at and certainly not as user-friendly, but it works - and what is elegance if it doesn't work. How do I get Serif support for this - anyone (if there is anyone) know please?

Clive