Pete123 Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 Sorry if this has been asked before, I searched but could not find an answer. I currently have a few lines to which I have applied "arrowheads" start and end (actually I used circles instead of arrowheads..) and now I am trying to "flatten" the design. However, I am unable to convert to curves (a stroke is already a curve) and when I choose "expand stroke", the stroke itself is expanded as expected, however the arrow ends have vanished... is this expected behaviour ? Is there any way I can achieve this simple task ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 This works okay for me in Designer 1.8.3.641 on Windows 10. With a double-arrow-head line I get three layers after expansion, one for the curve and one for each arrow, see attached image. I think this is the first time I’ve tried expanding the stroke of a curve with arrow-heads, that I can remember, so I might just be lucky this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 7 hours ago, GarryP said: This works okay for me in Designer 1.8.3.641 on Windows 10. It also works for me using AD for Mac. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete123 Posted June 27, 2020 Author Share Posted June 27, 2020 This is odd. I seem to remember this working before, but I can't get it to work now. Included is a small screencast. Does anybody know what I'm doing wrong ? expandstroke.mov Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 I have been able to replicate the problem by using “Align Stroke to Inside”. When that is set the problem occurs, but when “Align Stroke to Centre” is used the problem does not occur. See attached video. I have no idea why this should be. 2020-06-27 08-59-47.mp4 firstdefence 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R C-R Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 Garry beat me to it. I think using “Align Stroke to Inside” (or to outside) not working as expected has been reported as a bug. Quote All 3 1.10.8, & all 3 V2.4.1 Mac apps; 2020 iMac 27"; 3.8GHz i7, Radeon Pro 5700, 32GB RAM; macOS 10.15.7 Affinity Photo 1.10.8; Affinity Designer 1.108; & all 3 V2 apps for iPad; 6th Generation iPad 32 GB; Apple Pencil; iPadOS 15.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete123 Posted June 27, 2020 Author Share Posted June 27, 2020 I hadn't thought of playing with different alignment methods. Thanks so much, this indeed solves my problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 You’re welcome. I don’t think you should have needed to think about the alignment type; it should have just worked (unless I’m missing some important information). As R C-R said above, it could have already been reported as a bug (however the same problem is still evident in the 1.8.4.650 beta). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alfred Posted June 27, 2020 Share Posted June 27, 2020 It’s perhaps not surprising that the same bug manifests itself in the iPad version of AD. Quote Alfred Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for Windows • Windows 10 Home/Pro Affinity Designer/Photo/Publisher 2 for iPad • iPadOS 17.4.1 (iPad 7th gen) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MmmMaarten Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 This bug still isn't solved in 1.8.5. As written above Expand Stroke only works when stroke alignment is set to the center. It's not working when alignment is set to in- or outside. Could this get some attention by Affinity to fix this? Alfred and rvsf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 39 minutes ago, wigglepixel said: Could this get some attention by Affinity to fix this? If it is not reported in the bug forum and it remained only as a question, then I doubt it. R C-R 1 Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterFulanito Posted November 11, 2020 Share Posted November 11, 2020 I confirm. I've been spending around 30 min looking for an answer and it was the align. It should be on 'center'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvsf Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 In Affinity 2 continuous to happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 Confirmed in Designer 2.0.4 on Windows (don’t know about the 2.1 beta). When “Align Stroke to Inside” or “Align Stroke to Outside” is set then the arrowhead is lost from the stroke expansion. However, when “Align Stroke to Centre” is set then the arrowhead is expanded as expected. This was reported as a bug on Desktop, and acknowledged by a staff member, and logged, in May 2021: https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/141557-is-this-a-bug-why-in-cant-convert-to-curves-or-expand-arrowheads/ It was previously reported as a bug for iPad, and acknowledged by a staff member, and passed to development, in August 2019: https://forum.affinity.serif.com/index.php?/topic/94571-expand-stroke-with-arrowheads/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulEC Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 I must be honest, I can't see the advantage/difference of setting the alignment to inner or outer, rather than centre. In what circumstances do you need to use these settings? Quote Acer XC-895 : Core i5-10400 Hexa-core 2.90 GHz : 32GB RAM : Intel UHD Graphics 630 : Windows 10 Home Affinity Publisher 2 : Affinity Photo 2 : Affinity Designer 2 : (latest release versions) on desktop and iPad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GarryP Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 9 minutes ago, PaulEC said: In what circumstances do you need to use these settings? I can’t think of any, and I don’t think I’ve seen anyone come up with a good reason to be able to set them to anything other than “Align Stroke to Centre” for an open curve. As you said in another thread, the superfluous options should probably be disabled, for open curves, unless someone can come up with a good reason not to. (And they can always be re-enabled if someone comes up with a good reason later.) There’s a chance that not disabling the other options is simply a case of erring on the side of caution, not wanting to ‘break’ something that could be useful but not generally known about. PaulEC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pšenda Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 10 minutes ago, PaulEC said: I must be honest, I can't see the advantage/difference of setting the alignment to inner or outer, rather than centre. The proposals and benefits of using the Inner/Outer option for curves have been discussed and proposed several times on the forum, but in the current concept of Affinity they are completely irrelevant - and it is therefore a bug (of the design) that these options are not disabled and it is therefore possible to select them (although they do not have no meaning). The fact that these completely meaningless (actually unused) curve parameters cause another problem with the Expand command is only a consequence of this faulty design. PaulEC 1 Quote Affinity Store (MSI/EXE): Affinity Suite (ADe, APh, APu) 2.4.0.2301 Dell OptiPlex 7060, i5-8500 3.00 GHz, 16 GB, Intel UHD Graphics 630, Dell P2417H 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Dell Latitude E5570, i5-6440HQ 2.60 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics 530, 1920 x 1080, Windows 11 Pro, Version 23H2, Build 22631.3155. Intel NUC5PGYH, Pentium N3700 2.40 GHz, 8 GB, Intel HD Graphics, EIZO EV2456 1920 x 1200, Windows 10 Pro, Version 21H1, Build 19043.2130. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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